Browning X-Bolt vs Winchester Model 70
02-01-2011, 03:07 PM
#11
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Texas
Posts: 2,695
That's what I hear that's what I'm reading.
Sheridan I'm going with a wood/blued gun. Both guns feel good to shoulder.The Browning has the detachable magazine box the Winchester has the floor plate,doesn't matter to me one way or the other.
I like the stock a little better on the Winchester especially the Schnabel fore grip but I good live with either one.
Both guns have good reputations and loyal followings.Both are in the same price range give or take $50.
Going to Cabelas this weekend in PA. gonna compare them side by side then decide.
Sheridan I'm going with a wood/blued gun. Both guns feel good to shoulder.The Browning has the detachable magazine box the Winchester has the floor plate,doesn't matter to me one way or the other.
I like the stock a little better on the Winchester especially the Schnabel fore grip but I good live with either one.
Both guns have good reputations and loyal followings.Both are in the same price range give or take $50.
Going to Cabelas this weekend in PA. gonna compare them side by side then decide.
went to fondel the new Win. 70 in stainless with wood.
Very sexy !
Last edited by zrexpilot; 02-01-2011 at 03:16 PM.
02-01-2011, 05:03 PM
#12
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: VA, USA
Posts: 3,116
That's what I hear that's what I'm reading.
Sheridan I'm going with a wood/blued gun. Both guns feel good to shoulder.The Browning has the detachable magazine box the Winchester has the floor plate,doesn't matter to me one way or the other.
I like the stock a little better on the Winchester especially the Schnabel fore grip but I good live with either one.
Both guns have good reputations and loyal followings.Both are in the same price range give or take $50.
Going to Cabelas this weekend in PA. gonna compare them side by side then decide.
Sheridan I'm going with a wood/blued gun. Both guns feel good to shoulder.The Browning has the detachable magazine box the Winchester has the floor plate,doesn't matter to me one way or the other.
I like the stock a little better on the Winchester especially the Schnabel fore grip but I good live with either one.
Both guns have good reputations and loyal followings.Both are in the same price range give or take $50.
Going to Cabelas this weekend in PA. gonna compare them side by side then decide.
That is the best way to do it....compare them side to side and make your choice of what you like best.
02-01-2011, 07:15 PM
#14
Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 10,679
Oh good God the model 70 is a superior rifle in every way. It's a real rifle. Yes I know that FNH owns both Browning and Winchester but they are very different companies and very different rifles. John Browning would be rolling over in his grave if he could see what Browning is producing today. Under a grand, and compared to many rifles over a grand, the model 70 has it hands down.
*The model 70 has the best safety ever designed on a rifle.
*The model 70 has a coned breech that pretty much eliminates a round popping up and jamming against the breech face.
*The model 70's extractor is a hundred times stronger than that of the X-bolt though the extractor in the X-bolt is a vast improvement over the A-bolt.
*The model 70's bolt can be field stripped with out any additional tools in the off event that you fall into a creek in Colorado in December when it's 20 below 0* and have to get the ice out like I did one year.
*The model 70 just looks a hell of a lot better than that euro-trash styled rifle that the Browning is.
*If it matters to you the model 70 is made here in the USA.
*The tang on the X-bolt is easily snapped off when you remove the rifle from the stock due to it being made of some kind of porous pot metal kind of stuff.
*The x-bolt's magazine is a plastic piece of junk. Good luck getting it back together if you ever need to take it apart to get something out.
*The model 70 has the best safety ever designed on a rifle.
*The model 70 has a coned breech that pretty much eliminates a round popping up and jamming against the breech face.
*The model 70's extractor is a hundred times stronger than that of the X-bolt though the extractor in the X-bolt is a vast improvement over the A-bolt.
*The model 70's bolt can be field stripped with out any additional tools in the off event that you fall into a creek in Colorado in December when it's 20 below 0* and have to get the ice out like I did one year.
*The model 70 just looks a hell of a lot better than that euro-trash styled rifle that the Browning is.
*If it matters to you the model 70 is made here in the USA.
*The tang on the X-bolt is easily snapped off when you remove the rifle from the stock due to it being made of some kind of porous pot metal kind of stuff.
*The x-bolt's magazine is a plastic piece of junk. Good luck getting it back together if you ever need to take it apart to get something out.
Last edited by bigbulls; 02-01-2011 at 07:19 PM.
02-01-2011, 07:26 PM
#15
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Michigan
Posts: 3,329
The only draw back I see to the Winchester M70 is the trigger. There will be a trigger out for this rifle within the next couple of years.
Big Bulls,
I spoke with Timney the other day, they wouldn't give me a date but they say they could have a trigger out within the year. I'm very excited.
Tom
02-01-2011, 07:44 PM
#16
Boone & Crockett
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Big Bulls,
I spoke with Timney the other day, they wouldn't give me a date but they say they could have a trigger out within the year. I'm very excited.
I spoke with Timney the other day, they wouldn't give me a date but they say they could have a trigger out within the year. I'm very excited.
We just got in a model 70 in 416 Rem Mag in and even though it doesn't have true express sights and the stock is grade 1 wood that rifle is a wonderfully balanced and proportioned rifle. If I were looking for a DG rifle and didn't want to go custom these model 70's would be at the top of the list.
Last edited by bigbulls; 02-01-2011 at 07:49 PM.
02-01-2011, 07:58 PM
#17
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Idaho
Posts: 1,081
I'm surprised it has taken them this long.
We just got in a model 70 in 416 Rem Mag in and even though it doesn't have true express sights and the stock is grade 1 wood that rifle is a wonderfully balanced and proportioned rifle. If I were looking for a DG rifle and didn't want to go custom these model 70's would be at the top of the list.
We just got in a model 70 in 416 Rem Mag in and even though it doesn't have true express sights and the stock is grade 1 wood that rifle is a wonderfully balanced and proportioned rifle. If I were looking for a DG rifle and didn't want to go custom these model 70's would be at the top of the list.
02-02-2011, 05:11 AM
#19
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Eastern PA USA
Posts: 1,398
Good luck
Good luck getting to Cabelas on Sat. Hope our "wonderful" PA road crews have the ice cleaned up by then. 81 should be OK. Nice store. Hope it is a good experience for you. Combining your other thread, you may want to browse the ammo shelves to see what you can find 7mm/08 vs. .308 as part of your decision. I did have a M70 featherweight (post '64) and I thought the stock was well designed. If you are deciding based on the trigger, the M70 trigger was very well thought of for many years, but I'd guess now they have too much travel or weight due to our wonderful legal system. A good gunsmith should be able to take care of that.
02-02-2011, 06:15 AM
#20
Nontypical Buck
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Good luck getting to Cabelas on Sat. Hope our "wonderful" PA road crews have the ice cleaned up by then. 81 should be OK. Nice store. Hope it is a good experience for you. Combining your other thread, you may want to browse the ammo shelves to see what you can find 7mm/08 vs. .308 as part of your decision. I did have a M70 featherweight (post '64) and I thought the stock was well designed. If you are deciding based on the trigger, the M70 trigger was very well thought of for many years, but I'd guess now they have too much travel or weight due to our wonderful legal system. A good gunsmith should be able to take care of that.
I plan on checking ammo availibility @ Cabelas cause if you can't get it there.....well you know the saying.