Accuracy question for a Rem 223

flips2 · 11-26-2010, 12:53 PM

I recently just bought a Remington Mod 700 in .223. It was a combo deal with scope, rings, bases, and gun deal. The scope that came with it is a Remington 4x12x40 model but I think it is a Bushnell scope. I could be wrong. Anyways I sighted the gun at 25yds to make sure it was on paper after boresighting it. I was able to dial it in to where I wanted it and it shot a three shot group that was touching. I then moved back to 50 yds at it went haywired. The shots were 6.5 inches high and 4.5 inches to the left. The shot group went from touching to a 3 inch group. I honestly believe the scope is the problem and not the ammo or the gun itself. I am shooting Black Hills 55gr ammo right now. I do plan on putting on a different scope when I get some money and after the holdiays but I am hoping to get it sighted in with the current set up so I can use it on some coyotes this winter. Any suggestions, opinions, past experiences would be greatly appreciated.

TUK101 · 11-26-2010, 04:19 PM

I would check the scope rings for tightness on the scope and the base itself.

fritz1 · 12-04-2010, 09:36 PM

I would deffinitely say check the rings and bases, that rifle should be a sweet shooter.

DDMPrecision · 12-05-2010, 12:59 AM

I have the same combo, in 308WIN.
The scope isn't a bushnell, it's a simmons.
Check your rings and bases for being sure they're snugged down well, then try your test again.
Alternatively, ditch the POS simmons, get something that will actually hold a zero, and start over.
I'm waiting to get mine set up until I put decent optics on it, with quality rings and bases to go with it.
Simmons scopes are good for pellet guns and 22's IMHO, but not much else.
Bushnell is a fair scope for the money.
I'm going with a Millett or a Nikon.
Have had good experiences with both, and I usually go with what I know.
Yes, they're a lot more money, but in most cases with optics, you get what you pay for.

flips2 · 12-08-2010, 01:30 PM

DDm, thanks for clarification on the scope brand. I do plan on buying a new scope for it, probably a Nikon. Like you, I know what quality I will get with a Nikon as I do own a couple already. I just don't have the money to get it yet. I hope too by this spring but I am hoping the current setup will get me through the winter.

I have taken the scope off, checked the bases, remounted the scope, and made sure the rings are snug. I have reboresighted it but it will probably be after the holidays before I get out to shoot it again.

Thanks to everyone so far for the input.

Ridge Runner · 12-08-2010, 01:48 PM

3 shots touching at 25 and 3" at 100, I'll bet on bad bedding, I'd have the action bedded and float the barrel.make sure your screws are tightend to around 60 in/lbs.RR

midminnesota · 12-09-2010, 01:33 PM

Try one thing at a time, if you have a known good scope replace the old one and find out. In some of the guns i have checked out it has been the scope. I replace with a known quality scope and groups shrink. I have found a bad leupold and weaver scope by doing this. If I was not such an honest guy I would have gotten 2 guns for dirt cheap, the one bought a leupold and is very happy. the other as of now is sending his back to leupold for the second time, not quit happy with leupold right now.