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Old 06-29-2010, 10:03 AM   #1
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Default Why no 270 "08"?

Ok guys if i wasnt so bored, I wouldnt post such nonsense, but it just seems like such a shame there is no 308 based 277. Im mean, we have the 243, 257rbts(7mmmauser case), 260,the mighty 7-08, the308, the338 fed and the 358win, but no 270-08 that I know of. Yeah I know theres a wildcat, and a 270wsm and the 6.8spc but no commercial available 270-08. Seems like it would be the perfect light recoiling/hard hitting deer cartridge.
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Old 06-29-2010, 10:42 AM   #2
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because the '08 has already been necked to; .243, .260, 7mm-08, .308, .338, .358

the .270 is right in between the 260 and 7mm-08, the .277 and .284(7mm) are essentially the same diameter, .007 difference? could be argued that both the 260 and 7mm-08 are better options than a 270-08 would be.

how fast would a .223-08 be? but I suppose the .22-250 and .220swift are already plenty fast. I believe the 7mm-08 is much more popular than the .260, the .308 is a classic, I think with the .243, 7mm08, 308, and 338 those 4 are all we really need the 08 necked to.

also the .270win. already exists, and now we have a .270wsm, so many options out there now.

In my opinion we really have no need for a .270-08, hopefully they won't standardize it either, but that's just my opinion.

btw I hear ya about non-sense it's been pretty boring aorund here, I've posted a few too, and more to come! haha.

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Old 06-29-2010, 11:01 AM   #3
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because the '08 has already been necked to; .243, .260, 7mm-08, .308, .338, .358
I know I actually just wrote that. the idea is, why all those diameters, but no 277?

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the .270 is right in between the 260 and 7mm-08, the .277 and .284(7mm) are essentially the same diameter, .007 difference? could be argued that both the 260 and 7mm-08 are better options than a 270-08 would be.
Well then,I guess there should be no .257rbts since theres only .007 difference between the 257 and 264(260)? Theres actually a big difference between a 130gn .284 and 130rg .277, in sectional density.


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In my opinion we really have no need for a .270-08,
IMO we have no need for anything besides 22lr, 223, 243, 30-06 and 375hh, but I just find it odd that there is no 308based .277
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it's been a wildcat for more than 40 years!!! could be that it doen't do much that the standard .270 will do other than a short action...amazing how many of these so called wildcats don't really do all that much better..
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I would suspect it's easier to make a profit or more of a profit with selling 3 rounds, vs. expanding the lineup to 5 rounds, etc...

forcing customers to pick a .260 or 7mm helps profits vs. if those 2 groups were split up to a .260, 270, 7mm.

I think often times it comes to what's popular in those lineups, as in the 270win was hugely popular, so why try to compete with it with a 270-08 and steal some of its thunder.

btw comparing the 270 and 7mm, I would say whats the SD difference from a 130gr 270, and a 140gr 7mm?
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and now if you want a short action 270, which is something new for factory ammo, we have the .270wsm, so now you have a faster short action option in 270, I suspect the .270wsm may go on to become the most popular of the WSM's, though I know the .300wsm is already very popular, but in 20years?

One article I read said something to the affect that the 270wsm is the only WSM that does anything new....ie more velocity and a short action 270, something that didn't exist til now. the .300wsm, there's already the .308 ie a SA, and the .300winmag basically the same thing as the .300wsm but in a LA.


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it's been a wildcat for more than 40 years!!! could be that it doen't do much that the standard .270 will do other than a short action...amazing how many of these so called wildcats don't really do all that much better..
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it's been a wildcat for more than 40 years!!! could be that it doen't do much that the standard .270 will do other than a short action...amazing how many of these so called wildcats don't really do all that much better..
Same could be said for any 308 based cartridge, that has a 3006 based version. Im not saying it desperately fills some much needed niche, but it just seems odd, that w/ all the seemingly redundant cartridges introduced over the years, a commercial 270-08 would be available by now.
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and now they have it covered every other from .243-338....ie...


243 257 260 270 7mm-08 no gap here 308 323 338


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I know I actually just wrote that. the idea is, why all those diameters, but no 277?

Well then,I guess there should be no .257rbts since theres only .007 difference between the 257 and 264(260)? Theres actually a big difference between a 130gn .284 and 130rg .277, in sectional density.


IMO we have no need for anything besides 22lr, 223, 243, 30-06 and 375hh, but I just find it odd that there is no 308based .277
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Now who would go and ruin a good thing like the .270 by sticking in an inferior case?
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Now who would go and ruin a good thing like the .270 by sticking in an inferior case?
Probably the same person who ruin a nice light rifle by making 1" longer and 8ozs heavier.
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