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Old 06-17-2003, 12:58 PM   #1
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Got a question for anyone that can help. I bought a gun 30/06 last fall for deer season, my first season. I was lucky enough to get one. I could have filled my tags if I did not miss 2 others.

Here is my problem, at the range I can place my shots right on top of each other at 50 yds. When I move the target to 100 yards I am all over the place. Is this a mental issue I have that I need to work through, or could I be doing something wrong?

Thanks in advance for any advice you can pass along.
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Old 06-17-2003, 01:06 PM   #2
 
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You could need a higher power scope. Other than that, the only thing I can think of is it' s mental. You should be able to take your rifle and make comparable shots at 50, 100, 200... as long as you have something quality to make your sight picture through. Just relax, breathe, and let the gun settle on the target. Sorry if I' m not more help.
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Old 06-17-2003, 01:12 PM   #3
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it' s possible you aren' t using a scope at all....and if that' s the case, putting a scope on the gun will be a great help. FL/GA Hunter is correct.....your groups at 100, and 200 yds shouldn' t be much different than at 50 yards...
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Old 06-17-2003, 01:20 PM   #4
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I have a 3-9x40 Buchnell scope and I have been shooting Remington 180 Core-Lokt shells.
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Old 06-17-2003, 01:27 PM   #5
 
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Nope... unless the scope is loose?

Ah... that could be it. When you boresighted it, did you make sure that the scope was firmly (and I mean firmly) attached? If the rings are loose, then a wobble that may be unnoticeable at 50 yards could be more evident at longer ranges.

Otherwise, the only other thing I could say is check for a crack in the stock or something like that. If there' s nothing wrong with the gun, then, as they say in the technology world, it' s user error. You need to hit the range that much more often. 3-9x should be plenty of scope for 200 yards, much less 100.
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Old 06-17-2003, 01:27 PM   #6
 
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Fishhunt, are your bullets tearing neat 30 caliber holes at 100 yards? What I' m getting at are your bullets stabilized? If the holes look like anything other than neat round holes, your bullets aren' t being stablized properly. Your bullet may be fairly stable at 50 yards, but really starting to go to pieces at 100.
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Old 06-17-2003, 01:31 PM   #7
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What kinds of ammo have you tried? How heavy is your trigger? What type of rifle are you shooting? How often do you practice? How big are your groups at 100 yards? These questions will give us more of a clue as to what may be happening.
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Old 06-17-2003, 01:34 PM   #8
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Thanks for the help. I will check to see if the scope is on tight. I guess I need to have a couple of different people shoot the gun and see if they are getting the same results I am. It is most likely me, I have only shot a .22 up until this past fall. Practice, practice, practice.....

Thanks again
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Old 06-17-2003, 01:47 PM   #9
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Frizzellr, I have only shot the 180 g core-lokt, I don' t know how heavy the trigger is. My gun is the Remington 710 30/06. I have read that a lot of people do not like this gun on these forums. I know I don' t practice near enough and that could be the main issue. I am not even putting together groups at 100 yds. I wanted to get some experienced advice to see if I needed to change anything.

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Old 06-17-2003, 01:52 PM   #10
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Well I wished you would have asked before you got that 710. The triggers are terrible on them. Could be part of your problem. Also, you could try different kinds of ammo. I would get away from the 180 grains. No use in dealing with the extra recoil. Try 150 grains and different brands. That is after you have someone else shoot it and see if it does the same thing. Keep in mind though that you can' t polish a turd.
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