My Savage 93 BVSS shoots the 20gr best,,,CCI or Hornady, same POI. The 17gr Vmax or TNT shoot 2 inches left from my gun. I've stocked up with 20gr Hornady HP.
CCI, Federal, Winchester, Remington and Hornady are all loaded here at CCI in Lewiston, Idaho with a V-max bullet are identical, with the exception of tip color. Manufactured on the same equip, to the same ballistic specs, using the same components other than color of the tip of the bullets. Obviously the shellcase 'head stamp' and packaging would be different on the various products.
Linda Olin
CCI/Speer Technical Services
2299 Snake River Ave.
Lewiston, ID 83501
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Linda Olin
CCI/Speer Technical Services
2299 Snake River Ave.
Lewiston, ID 83501
well that tells me alot, Linda (female) Olin (related to the owners)
so a different color tip causes a shift in POI? and causes the smell of the smoke from the breech when you eject an empty to be different? duh, OK.
How much time ya reckon linda has spent in R&D and on the lines to know what goes in what?
RR
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Last edited by Ridge Runner; 03-23-2010 at 05:18 PM.
Boy, Ridge Runner doesn't seem to be convinced either.
So if I'm to understand it, now..............."all 17 ammo is the same", only different.
We better call Linda.
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CCI makes all the 17 hmr ammo from CCI, Hornady, Remington and Winchester.
The Hornady v-max bullet and the Remington accu tip bullet are the exact same bullet except for the plastic tip color. The Hornady is red and the Remington is gold. Winchester brand also uses this bullet.
They also load the Speer TNT (hollow point) bullets for Hornady, CCI, and Winchester.
The V-max bullet and the Speer TNT's are the only two bullets loaded for the 17HMR that I know of.
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CCI makes all the 17 hmr ammo from CCI, Hornady, Remington and Winchester.
The Hornady v-max bullet and the Remington accu tip bullet are the exact same bullet except for the plastic tip color. The Hornady is red and the Remington is gold. Winchester brand also uses this bullet.
They also load the Speer TNT (hollow point) bullets for Hornady, CCI, and Winchester.
The V-max bullet and the Speer TNT's are the only two bullets loaded for the 17HMR that I know of.
I have some FMJ ammo but can't recall whose name is pasted on the box.
I had a project HMR rifle that once I got started a friend who comes out to shoot pds with me decided to gift me a whole bunch of HMR ammo. In the stack there was a partial box of these. I think they are 20 gr. ??
I have some FMJ ammo but can't recall whose name is pasted on the box.
I had a project HMR rifle that once I got started a friend who comes out to shoot pds with me decided to gift me a whole bunch of HMR ammo. In the stack there was a partial box of these. I think they are 20 gr. ??
I remember those but I do not believe they are manufactured any more.
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