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Old 06-11-2003, 11:03 PM   #1
 
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Default Close up far away targets in competition

I' ve been to some shoots that use 1.25MOA targets at 100yrds (1.25" ) to simulate their other targets at 600yrds, usually 8" targets, but they don' t have an alley longer than 400yrds, so they just make them the same MOA and bring them closer. I' m sure this isn' t a strange tactic, and I' m certain in fact that it' s fairly common place, but I got to thinking the other day that it isn' t really a very good indicator of shooting ability. Having a target rifle shoot 1MOA at 100yrds isn' t very difficult, and shooting a target at 100yrds of any size doesn' t take any hold over if you' re sighted in for that range (maybe some ' hold under' since most sight in beyond 100yrds), there' s not much of a wind factor to consider, and no hold over to worry about, rarely would parallax be a problem, but it' s lessened even moreso. You don' t have to know anything about what your bullet does at a long range to shoot a very small target up close, I have a factory Ruger M-77 that will shoot 1.2MOA on average out to 150yrds, but by 600yrds, it has opened up to 1.75MOA, I could confidently take the line on those close tiny targets, but a large at long ranges makes me sweat with that rifle.

How do you all feel about using equal MOA targets at closer ranges to simulate down town shooting? I know I' d never do it for practice shooting with a hunting rifle, and I' m not really sure I like it with a target rifle, what do you all think?
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Old 06-11-2003, 11:16 PM   #2
 
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Default RE: Close up far away targets in competition

Nomercy,

I don' t think this is the answer you was looking for. I use a 1" diamond style target with a 1" circle directly above the diamond. The diamond is outlined in a brilliant bold blue the paper is bright white. The target has 1/4 MOA lines horizontal and verical. I use this target for 75-100 yard shooting for varmint and hunting rifles with a scope 6x and above. I use a similar target except with a 2" diamond and circle for big game rifles with scopes below 6x and for 200 yd shooting. 200 yard is the longest formal range I have access to. When I get ready for a hunt I shoot at milk jugs and pepsi bottles at a friends farm. We shoot at no more than 250 yards but only use modified field positions and try to shoot 5 shoots at a fairly rapid pace. It' s a blast seeing those jugs explode[>:]
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Old 06-12-2003, 08:09 AM   #3
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Default RE: Close up far away targets in competition

Where I shoot, we do high power and service rifle matches at a maximum distance of 200 yards. The typical SR-target (Service rifle) has an x-ring of about 2MOA and a 10 ring slightly under 5MOA for whatever distance its set at. MR targets (match rifle) are smaller. We do have a few ' simulated' 600 yard matches that use smaller bulls at 100 yards. I' m not sure what the purpose of this is as you mentioned, wind isn' t much of a factor at 100 yards, but becomes one of the biggest factors at 600. Best bet, is do an internet search for a shooting range that has a 600 yard course in your area, or state for that matter. I' ve been only able to locate 3 in my state with a 600 yard range- one is only about an hour away from me and is holding a match next month I might try.
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Old 06-12-2003, 10:55 AM   #4
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Default RE: Close up far away targets in competition

there' s only one way to do 1,000 or even 600 yard shooting....and It' s at 1,000 or 600 yards.

Simulating the target at 100 yards just isn' t the same thing at all.....

Now for a competition shoot it can work because the conditions are the same for everyone......but it' s not 600 yard shooting.
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