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Old 09-10-2009, 03:05 PM   #1
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I just sighted in my new Rem 700 22-250 SPS. Love it. Its everything I thought it would be. 400yds, effortless. Almost too easy. I have not tried to go out further yet. It has a 1-14 twist and I think I need more like a 1-12 or faster so I can send heavier bullets further down range with more stability and to carry more energy to get the job done. I reload .55gr. Hornady and 55gr. Nosler . I would like a 60gr. or heavier (if I can find them). So I would like some advise on what my options may be. Any suggestions?
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Old 09-10-2009, 03:22 PM   #2
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an 8 twist will run bullets to 80 gr. fine, a 7 will stabilize 100 gr bullets.
screw an 8 twist on and it'll make a mile if the rest of the rifle is set up properly and you can dope the wind right.
Just remember a faster twist will cut your barrel life a bit. How far do you plan on shooting and whats it worth to ya, I've taken chucks at 550 yards with a 55 gr bullet from a 223.
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Old 09-11-2009, 10:13 AM   #3
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I would like to go out to 800yds and beyond and take out Yotes. I know there are a lot of factors to contend with for yardage like that but that is my goal. Do I contact Remington for the new barrel or do I get one from another manufacturer? I have a bull barrel on it now and want to get one with a faster twist. As far as what its worth......money wise? I spent $600 on the rifle, $400 on the optices and planned on at least $300 for a new barrel. If I can make a shot at 1000yds. (my goal) That accomplishment is priceless. Thanks for the advise.
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Old 09-11-2009, 11:47 AM   #4
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listen to whatever RR says. As far as barrels, Krieger, Hart, Pac-nor, Montana, Shilen, Douglas, Macgowen, Broughtan, Lother Walther all make good barrels. Shilen, Douglas, Macgowen and LW can all be had for around $300. I just ordered a shilen ss select match threaded and chambered for a savage action for $269.
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research lilja, kreiger, broughton, Hart, Rock creek, Brux these are the best of the best, also find a good smith what he does and how he does it will determine the accuracy your rebarreled rifle is capable of. its not cheap but when your talking minute of yote at 1K every lil bit helps.my last price quotes I read about 6 months ago went like this
level 2 accurization of a reciever $135.00
fitting and chambering new barrel $250.00
26" 8 twist .224 barrel $356.00 (could be 450.00 depending on which maker you choose)
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Old 09-11-2009, 01:21 PM   #6
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I'm in total awe when I hear guys talk about shooting at such long distances. Although I wish I did, I do not possess the skills required to hit a target past about 250 yards. I know that anything is possible, but I was under the impression that .224 caliber bullets are at a disadvantage beyond 500 yards, regardless of the initial velocity. Keep us informed how this works. As far as which barrel to use, when I worked for Knight Armament we used barrels from Boots Obermeyer in our sniper rifles. He uses 5R canted land rifling in his barrels, and each one is hand lapped.

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Old 09-11-2009, 01:40 PM   #7
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centar, bullet diameter and weight for that matter have almost nothing to do with hitting the target, weight affects terminal energy and that means alot but it only takes 250 ft/lb of energy to kill a coyote.
The BC (ballistic coefficient) of a bullet is the deciding factor. BC is a measurement of how well the bullet "slips through the air"

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a 22/250 with an 8 twist can send a hornady 75 gr a-max (BC of .431) downrange at 3300 fps

A 338 Rum can send a hornady 225 gr interbond (BC of .430) downrange at 3300 fps since the bullets have the same velocity and virtualy the same BC, then both bullets will drop and drift the same downrange. the only difference is retained energy.

Now shooting a high BC bullet can and will cut your drop and wind drift by 30%, over the same caliber bullet with a low BC. I shoot high BC bullets in all my long range rigs and most folks refuse to believe the shots I make. In the world of long range BC will outrun velocity every time.
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Old 09-11-2009, 05:55 PM   #8
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Y are you doing this with a .224 caliber? You'd be better off with something at least a little bigger. Are you just doing general varmint hunting or you shooting for fur? at 800yrds you are basically hitting the yote with a .22, and if you start asking people about that there are very mixed views.
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Y are you doing this with a .224 caliber? You'd be better off with something at least a little bigger. Are you just doing general varmint hunting or you shooting for fur? at 800yrds you are basically hitting the yote with a .22, and if you start asking people about that there are very mixed views.

i agree, i have the same rifle, ive just tinkered with it (look back a few posts, titled I finally got it, or something like that, and while i love the .22-250 caliber, id never attempt to kill past 600yds, if you were gonna rebarrel it id say do it in ATLEAST .243, but if i were to pick a caliber (which im gonna rebarrel in) it would be .308. they dont have as good a velocity, but as for ke at further ranges, it blows a .22-250 out of the water
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Old 09-11-2009, 06:24 PM   #10
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im really impressed with the performance i get from my broughton 5c barrel, but i wish i had got it in something longer then 26 inches. but from a 26 inch barrel i can get speeds that are about 75 fps + faster then they should be, and from what ive been told its because of the 5c rifling (canted rifling, very similar to 5r that remington often uses on there 40x barrels)
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