What are some of your success/disaster stories with this bullet? Shoulder shots? After reading about ballistic tips blowing up, it has me thinking about continuing use of these bullets for deer because of lack of blood trail etc. I'm sure with a good shot (behind shoulder) they will work fine???
These bullets group very well out of my 7mm08. I have taken one deer with these which fell on the spot. What is your take on the bullet?
If it shoots well and has worked in the past then use it. With over 30 game deer sized animals to a BT I have yet to see "the failures" that run rampant on internet threads and such. Never had a poor blood trail actually the opposite, in fact rarily not watched the animal fall in sight. Dead nutz shooters in many of my rifles and IME they flat out work great for our canadian deer.
If it shoots well and has worked in the past then use it. With over 30 game deer sized animals to a BT I have yet to see "the failures" that run rampant on internet threads and such. Never had a poor blood trail actually the opposite, in fact rarily not watched the animal fall in sight. Dead nutz shooters in many of my rifles and IME they flat out work great for our canadian deer.
skeeter hit the bullseye. I've never had or seen a so-called "failure"
with a BT. IMO, the stories are attempts by some to make excuses for poor shooting.
Theres a debate on whether the moly coated bullets are any good or bad for the barrell. I know I cleaned my friends gun that had been using them and it was like mud coming out of the barrell. They say once you use them you cant use any other bullet. Dont know if its true or not. This gun shot pretty good with them but after cleaning it and trying other ammo it never grouped again. Never put the wins back in it he ended up selling it.
ballistic silvertips are a nosler ballistic tip with a luballoy coating, not moly.
At 7mm/08 velocities you will have no problems, I shoot 140 BT's at 3550 fps from my STW, and once in a great while, on a shoulder shot, at close range it doesn't exit. but never lost a deer with it, thats out of 19 bucks and a bear.
The skinny on BT's, years ago when the ballistic tips were first made, the guys shooting the hot magnums had trouble with them being tender, especialy the 30 cals. these bullets were packaged 100 per box. at least 15 years ago nosler revamped the heavy for caliber bullets in 243 diameter, (95 gr) and all the calibers larger than 243 and made them the exact same as the popular "solid base boattail" these bullets are packaged 50 per box. the thin skinned varminter bullets are packaged 100/250 per box. at around 3000 fps MV, there isn't a better deer bullet made than todays ballistic tip, which is a nosler solid base boatail with a polymer tip.
RR
The cow elk that my pops shot this past year through both shoulders with his .270 at 50 yards dropped dead, bang flop. He has used the Winny Silvertips since they came out and hasn't shot anything else since is how much he believes in them. I will be making him up some this fall for him to try that will be a much cheaper copy.
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Just to be clarify winchester offers the Ballistic Silver Tip (black coated bullet with a polymer tip - similar to the NBT as nosler makes it for them part of the Combined Technologies umbrella ) & the SilverTip a cup and core bullet (copper and lead tipped). Name is shared but different bullet designs. I know guys who use the silvertip for elk in heavy gr. for caliber offerings. Personally I wouldn't use either but each his own.
Winchester moly loads were Failsafe & Partition Gold. The CT bullets offered currently BT and AB's use lubalox coating like Ridgerunner pointed out.
luballoy is a metal coating with teflon, does not retain moisture like moly, thats the problem with moly, leave a moly coating in the barrel and ya risk pitting from rust, take it out and ya start over with load developement. moly loads start slower, ya bump the charge to get the velocity where ya need it, clean the barrel and your overpressure with the loads you've allready loaded.
RR
Winchester Ballistic Silvertips
