logo
 

Go Back   HuntingNet.com Forums > Firearms Forum > Guns

Guns Like firearms themselves, there"™s a wide variety of opinions on what"™s the best gun.

View Poll Results: Which is a better gun for the money?
Tikka T3 3 13.64%
Weatherby Vanguard 6 27.27%
Browning X bolt 1 4.55%
Marlin XL 7 4 18.18%
Winchester Model 70 8 36.36%
Winchester SXR 0 0%
Voters: 22. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 08-01-2009, 05:19 PM   #1
Fork Horn
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location:
Posts: 125
Default Which new rifle?

I'm wanting a new rifle. I'm getting a bolt action but I can't make up my mind on what brand to get. I want to hold a Tikka T3 as I've heard a lot of good things about them. Then there are the "budget guns" that are around $400 that have superb accuracy that compete with guns 3 times their cost. I'm interested in the following:
Tikka T3
Marlin XL 7
Weatherby Vanguard
Browing X bolt
Winchester model 70
Winchester SXR (even though its not bolt action)

I am still undecided on caliber as well. I'm looking into
.308
30-06
300WSM
300 Win mag
or of course 300 Weatherby Mag if I go with the Weatherby
I'm most interested in either the 300 Win Mag or 300 WSM.

I am wanting a true knockdown power rifle for not only the whitetail here at home, but in case I get the chance to go hunt up in Saskatchewan or out in Montana. Give me your thoughts on the above choices and feel free to steer me in a different direction should you have better knowledge on the subject. Thanks in advance---DrAsus
__________________
I'd rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6!

Last edited by DrAsus; 08-01-2009 at 05:22 PM.
DrAsus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2009, 06:01 PM   #2
Typical Buck
 
13pointjomc's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: NE Alabama
Posts: 999
Default

I think i'd go with the Weatherby Vangaurd in (i know you didn't mention this caliber)in 7mm Rem. Mag. or 300 Win. Mag.Good accuracy,good price.My 2 cents.
__________________
"If Its Brown Its Down,If It Flies It Dies"

Team 1 2010-2011 Squirrel Hunting Champs
13pointjomc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2009, 06:27 PM   #3
Nontypical Buck
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: WY
Posts: 1,099
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DrAsus View Post
I am wanting a true knockdown power rifle for not only the whitetail here at home, but in case I get the chance to go hunt up in Saskatchewan or out in Montana. Give me your thoughts on the above choices and feel free to steer me in a different direction should you have better knowledge on the subject. Thanks in advance---DrAsus
The .308 and .30-06 have been putting venison in freezers reliably for years. A question though, have you any "other" deer medicine? If, say you already have a .270, you'd gain little by adding a .308 or .30-06 to your battery. On the other hand, how convinced are you you'll "get the chance" to hunt Saskatchewan or Montana? And what game species would you hunt? While a .308 would work for moose, it's not quite as good as the .30-06, which might not be as good as one of the .300s. That said, you live your whole life and never get or take that chance, and you're throwing spendy ammunition and the beating your shoulder's taking makes lots of pre-season practice prohibitive - and you've got more rifle than you need for whitetails. Not a happy recipe.

If you're looking for ONE rifle, though - I'd opt for the .30-06. I'd never feel horribly overgunned for deer, nor undergunned by any means for moose. Of your list of manufacturers, the only two I have any experience with are the Vanguard and M70 (albeit, the post-64, push-feeders that are no longer sold as "new"). The Vanguard (mine's a .300 Wby) has met every one of my expectations. Tough, accurate, carries easily (light enough to trudge up and down mountain ranges). Oh, and it's cheap enough that you can afford to put good glass on it. If it has a minor fault, it's a trigger that's on the stiff side. Nonetheless, a dime will usually cover three shots at 100 yards.
homers brother is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2009, 07:05 PM   #4
Nontypical Buck
 
Sheridan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location:
Posts: 2,927
Default

I recently ordered a X-Bolt in .338 Win, so that ought to tell you what I think..............



Although, I just brought this in 7MM RM stainless................and love it !!!




http://www.sakoa7.net/
__________________
Silence is Acceptance. "To stand in silence when they should be protesting makes cowards out of men." ~ Abraham Lincoln ~ Stand Up and Be Counted !
Sheridan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2009, 07:12 PM   #5
Typical Buck
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location:
Posts: 569
Default

Based on the brand / caliber you provided, I'd say the Tikka T3 in .300 WSM.

Personally I went with a Rem 700 Stainless SPS in .300 WSM. It's $300 less than the XCR and I used the savings to put a Zeiss Conquest 4.5-14x44M scope on it. Can take anything in North America at any reasonable (or unreasonable if you practice enough) shooting distance.
A11en is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-02-2009, 01:58 PM   #6
Giant Nontypical
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 5,706
Talking

what are you currently using to hunt deer "around here" with?

what might you hunt in SAS? or MT? elk I assume...

without knowing more info and you saying you want knockdown power I'd look to the vanguard in .300 WSM or .300 Weatherby, though a vanguard in .270 WSM would not only be a smoker for deer and ultraflat it could do the job on an the occasional elk down the road in the future, but if you already have a deer rifle, why bother with another,a .308 .30-06, get a magnum would be my suggestion.

a .300wby with 200gr bullets suggests "knockdown power" and could handle all of NA quite well.

I think you might be needing a ".338" though

Last edited by salukipv1; 08-02-2009 at 02:01 PM.
salukipv1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-02-2009, 05:44 PM   #7
Nontypical Buck
 
Centaur 1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Titusville Florida
Posts: 1,666
Default

Don't leave out the Remington 700 or the Ruger M77.
__________________
Diamond Justice 65# 29"DL
Gold Tip XT Hunter 5575 27.5"
Spot-Hogg Hunter Hogg-it w/wrap
QAD Ultra-Rest HD, Limbsaver M6 Quiver
Custom Stab w/Limbsaver modular nodes and QD
Centaur 1 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 08-02-2009, 09:02 PM   #8
Boone & Crockett
 
bigbulls's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 10,605
Default

As far as rifles go I love the Winchester model 70's. The new rifles made by FN in South Carolina use forged receivers and have an excellent trigger. The Winchester safety can't be beat. it is the only safety that mechanically separates the firing pin from the sear. It doesn't get any safer than that. The claw extractor is as fail safe and reliable as it gets.

I believe that they are the only rifle on your list that is made in a plant that is ISO 9001 certified.

I much prefer the classic lines of the model 70 over the new modern lines of some of the newer rifles like the X-bolt. The model 70 (feather weight to be exact) is just a damn good looking rifle.



Having said this you won't go wrong with any of the choices. My second choices would be either the Tikka or Vanguard.



AS far as cartridges go if you are talking about Montana and Canadian white tail deer then two of the absolute best cartridges aver made are the .270 Winchester and the 7mm-08 regardless of how big the deer get.

If you are talking about elk, moose and bears then I would opt for a 300WSM. If not then the 270 is as good as it gets for deer and also works great on elk too.

I personally would forget about the 300 Weatherby. The ammo costs quite a bit more than the other 300's out there and it is often hard to find on the shelves. The added performance isn't worth the expense and hassle IMO.
__________________
"The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency........... Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. The Republic can survive a Barack Obama, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their president."
bigbulls is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-2009, 03:13 AM   #9
Nontypical Buck
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Clermont Florida U.S.
Posts: 4,223
Default

Win 70, 1st choice.
Browning X Bolt, 2nd choice.
__________________
If you always do what you always did, you will always get what you always got.
bugsNbows is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-2009, 04:11 AM   #10
Nontypical Buck
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 4,302
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Centaur 1 View Post
Don't leave out the Remington 700 or the Ruger M77.
+2...

Knockdown power doesn't come from a bullet, it comes from cars...

Leave the magnums to the guys with a lot of shooting experience...A .308, 30-06, .270 or .7mm-08 are fairly common deer calibers and will do all that needs to be done to a whitetail...
nchawkeye is offline   Reply With Quote
 
 
Reply


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off

 

All times are GMT -8. The time now is 01:13 PM.