.300 WSM / .30-06 accurate calculation of recoil difference

schoolcraft · 05-31-2009, 08:24 AM

2 Browning Hunters apx. 6 3/4 lbs bare.

One in .30-06 shooting 165 gr. standard factory loads.

The other in .300 WSM also shooting standard factory loaded 165gr. load

Equal weight rifle. Equal weight bullet. Everything as close to equal as possible except for caliber.

Can someone calculate as close as possible how much difference in foot pounds or recoil I could expect?

bigbulls · 05-31-2009, 08:35 AM

The WSM will have about 4 foot pounds more recoil.

skeeter 7MM · 05-31-2009, 09:32 AM

Ransome numbers throughmy loading programfor the following results.

8 lb set up(6.75# rifle once scoped and ammo will add at least 1.25#'s)

3006 -165gr bullet +62gr RL22 (powder) +MV 2850 = 20LBs of free recoil

300wsm -165gr bullet +74gr RL22 (powder) + MV 3100 = 25LBs of free recoil

schoolcraft · 05-31-2009, 09:38 AM

Ok so apx. 24-26 ft. lbs. free recoil. Is that pretty close to a 160gr. loadiut of a 7mm Rem. Mag.??? Maybe a tad more?

I keep hearing these horror stories about how much the .300 WSM kicks in a lightweight rifle. It doesn't really sound bad at all

jeepkid · 05-31-2009, 10:51 AM

I've shot a .300 WSM in a Ruger lightweight that was is magnaported and it kicks considerably more then any 30-06 I've ever shot. They are closer to a .300 Win Mag then to a 30-06 imo...

homers brother · 05-31-2009, 11:08 AM

Unfortunately here - and with many other shooters concerned about recoil - the seed of the poison tree has been planted.

The simple concern or worry about recoil identifies the presence ofan apprehension that is often at the root of poor shooting habits, particularly flinching. "Is this going to hurt?" That's all it takes to get it started.

I have a few heavy recoilers in my battery, and I shoot them knowing also that they can be quite "punishing". However, I also know from experience shooting them thatthe "pain"never lasts long, and it's not even noticeable on game. When I feel it is when I do what I absolutely know will exacerbate the effect by shooting a box of ammo from prone and/or the bench. I don't make a habit of shootingprairie dogs all day from behind a .300 or .375,nordo Iplan on taking more than two shots a season on biggame with them. If I shoot them from the bench, I normally don't fire more than five rounds, and I usually have along something lighter to take the edge off- like a .223 or .243.

If you can't help but asking yourself how much the shot is going to hurt YOU, then you probably need to consider smaller, lighter-recoiling calibers - and there are PLENTY of them.

skeeter 7MM · 05-31-2009, 03:27 PM

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Ok so apx. 24-26 ft. lbs. free recoil. Is that pretty close to a 160gr. loadiut of a 7mm Rem. Mag.??? Maybe a tad more?

I keep hearing these horror stories about how much the .300 WSM kicks in a lightweight rifle. It doesn't really sound bad at all

The 7mm rem mag will be less, running an actual 160 load with a 8# set up inpuuted produces 22lbs of free recoil. The thing that sets the 7mm rem mag apart fromthe 06' (even though the actual numbers are very close)is muzzle blast and sharpness of the jab. I agree the 300wsm is in the same league as the 300wm interms ofrecoil, however its not untolerable either. I have shot literally dozens of 300's and never once felt bitten. I don't like recoil(who does)but know how to tolerate, it is a necessary evil. I have a bad shooting wing so I agree 100% with the suggestion of swapping off between groups, when I work on my 338wm which both produces in excess of 35lbs of free recoil I take my 17, 22-250. 2506rem to spell it off.

Recoil management is a mind game, if you think its going to hurt...it will hurt! The mind will screw up your technique and this will effect how you can shot any gun. Fighting recoil will always result in the shooter being the loser 9one has to learn to roll with it). I suggest when shooting a unknown rifle/caliber for the first time do so from a standing position and not off a bench. More forgiving and your mind feels more in control. Of course remember your techniques like , tucking it into the shoulder pocket, breathing and squeeze not jerk the trigger. Whether a 22 or 416 the gun should always just go bang..l try not to antcipate the shot, causing one totense up or brace for it.

Centaur 1 · 05-31-2009, 06:02 PM

I used to reload 100 grain Hornady half jackets at about 1700 fps out os my 30-06. That way I could shoot all summer without flinching then just make sure that it's still sighted in with hunting rounds before deer season. Like Homers brother said, your not going to notice it shooting at game.