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Old 04-28-2003, 10:07 AM   #1
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hello hunters?

I' ve seen a variety of rifles work very effectively on black bears, from a 357 mag to a 45-70.

My question is, do you think that a 243, loaded with heavy, solid bullets, would be good for black bears out to 150 yds for lung shots?

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Old 04-28-2003, 11:24 AM   #2
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It' s not the best choice by any means, but it will work. I' d personally feel much more comfortable with, say, the .257 Roberts with 120gr bullets or the .260 Rem with 140gr bullets, both of the premium variety, such as the Nosler Partition. Both offer more penetration and killing power with little increase in felt recoil.

I have a buddy who has taken many blackies with his .257 Roberts, including one bruiser that weighed over 400 lbs. He gets close (under 200 yards) and only pulls the trigger when he is sure he can hit the vitals. It has worked like a charm every time. One other thing: He also owns a .243 Win and has never used it on black bear.
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Old 04-28-2003, 01:11 PM   #3
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The .243 IS considered adequate for black bear at reasonable ranges. BUT, I believe you need a controlled-expansion bullet, NOT a solid. In addition, solids are illegal in most states for shooting game. Use at least a Rem. Corelokt, preferably a Nosler Partition or a Barnes X in 100 grain weight, and place them very precisely!!
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Old 04-28-2003, 03:51 PM   #4
 
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I have to agree with the other guys. A 243 may not be the BEST choice, but if you get to 150 yards and use an expanding bullet it will work. If you shoot it well, then go for it. If you find yourself with a few extra bucks and plan to hunt black bears often, I' d upgrade to something a bit larger. I' m partial to the 30-06 myself, but there are many choices that are great black bear guns.
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Old 04-28-2003, 04:13 PM   #5
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Keep in mind also, this animal can and will hunt YOU.

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Old 04-28-2003, 04:44 PM   #6
 
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There' s another poster who seems to do just fine with killing Montana black bears with his 243 and mere 85 grain bullets. From what I can remember, his hunting partner has the same setup. One shot kills on each bear no less.
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Old 04-28-2003, 04:59 PM   #7
 
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I wouldn' t use a 243 on bears. If you have to use a 243 shoot a 100gr or heavier bullet like a Partition or X-bullet. Do not use any type of ballistic tip or hollow point design. You' ll still need and be very selective with your shot. Bears rarely drop where their shot and usually leave a very small blood trail. When it comes to bears I' m a firm believer that caliber, bullet weight and construction is far more important than velocity. The kill zone on a bear is generally a little farther forward in the body and protected by heavier bone than it is in a deer, just something to keep in mind when you get ready to make the shot.
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OK I' m just asking here, cause I' ve never hunted bears before. Can you shoot them in the neck? Or do you want to take chest shots? I know you can kill a deer pretty easy in the neck, are bears similar?
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Old 04-29-2003, 01:28 PM   #9
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I' ve been fortunate enough to kill several bears before, but with a 30-30, 30-06, 44 mag, and 45-70. I was just looking for a new deer rifle for hunting over fields, and was going to look at a 243. I know it is enough for deer, but sometimes I see bears, and was wondering if it could handle them as well. It sounds like a 120 gr. SP would be just fine out to 150 yds.

As for neck shots, yes they do work, but be sure to use a large caliber when doing so. You' ll need to hit the spine for an immediate kill, and if you happen to hit the jugulars, then the bigger the hole, the better. A list of acceptable callibers for shooting a bear in the neck would include 44 Mag, 444 Marlin, 45-70 Govt., 50 cal muzzleloader.

Oh, and thanks for the info. about the 243 guys.
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if i was going after bear too id opt for a 25-06 then. little more umph but not a killer weight or recoil. then again i love cartridges based of the 06
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