whats to blame

[dkhamner]

My dad bought a new rifle oh... a month ago or so in a .300 win mag. I know its a remington, one of the new for 2008 type, not sure what its called, something that has the word tactical in the name.

Anyway he put a Burris 8x24 Blackdimond scope on it that he took off another of his rifles.

He has been trying since he bought it to get a good shot group. He has tried numerous weights of bullets, brands of bullets and even handloaded bullets with different weights and powder and he can not get a decent shot group at 200 yards or 100 yards.

He first thought it was the scope but he has never had any trouble with it on his other weapon. It can't be the ammo, he's tried over a dozen. Well he called Remington customer service to see what their advice was. They told him it was not the weapon. The customer service rep told him that he had a rifle that it tookhim 5 years to find the right ammo that his rifle liked. My dad is very impatient and didn't like the response he got.

So what do you think is to blame? The Scope, rifle or ammo? I think it's the rifle.

[DM]

ORIGINAL: dkhamner

My dad bought a new rifle oh... a month ago or so in a .300 win mag. I know its a remington, one of the new for 2008 type, not sure what its called, something that has the word tactical in the name.

Anyway he put a Burris 8x24 Blackdimond scope on it that he took off another of his rifles.

He has been trying since he bought it to get a good shot group. He has tried numerous weights of bullets, brands of bullets and even handloaded bullets with different weights and powder and he can not get a decent shot group at 200 yards or 100 yards.

He first thought it was the scope but he has never had any trouble with it on his other weapon. It can't be the ammo, he's tried over a dozen. Well he called Remington customer service to see what their advice was. They told him it was not the weapon. The customer service rep told him that he had a rifle that it tookhim 5 years to find the right ammo that his rifle liked. My dad is very impatient and didn't like the response he got.

So what do you think is to blame? The Scope, rifle or ammo? I think it's the rifle.

Is your dad use to shooting magnums?? What do you consider "decent" groups?

Do you have any targets to show us, so we can see if there's a pattern to them?

DM

[RugerM77.270]

Make sure he isn't flinching like was said. Many guys get a magnum not expecting the jump in recoil and end up flinching. Also the scope may be good but check the mounts and make sure everything is good and tight.

[Jacob Garrett]

I have a .300 win mag in a model 700 and it took me two trips to the range to get it sighted in this year. I also had a Burris 3x9 on it and never had a problem before. After giving up the first day I brought it home and took the scope off and the base was loose. The base had lock-tite put on the screws last year but it still vibrated loose. Tightened them up, put the scope back on, and now it will group under 1 1/2 with factory ammo. So make sure you take everything back apart and make sure everything is good and tight.

[treeman59]

when shooting guns that have a lot of recoil you really have to hag on tight. try useing a tight sling and shoot from the sitting position.______treeman

[eldeguello]

ORIGINAL:

So what do you think is to blame? The Scope, rifle or ammo? I think it's the rifle.

This may sound a bit strange,but I don't believe there's any way an intelligent person could, sight unseen, even venture a guess as to what's wrong here. It could be the ammo. It could be the rifle. It could be the scope. It could be the scope mounts, or even the way the scope mount screws were installed/tightened.

Or, it could be 'pilot error'.

IF I could examine your rig, and shoot a few rounds through it, I'll bet I could figure out the problem. But not otherewise......