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Old 09-24-2008, 06:32 PM   #1
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Default 458 socom, 450 bushmaster,or 50 beowolf

Does anyone out there have one of the three calibers? I have been thinking about getting a marlin guide gun in 45/70 until I started looking into these calibers. I think they would actually work better for what I am intending to use them for (heavy brush hunting for wild boar) I like the compactness of the 16" M4 carbine style and the semi-auto for faster follow up shots.
Any info you can provide would be much appreciated.

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Old 09-24-2008, 07:29 PM   #2
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Default RE: 458 socom, 450 bushmaster,or 50 beowolf

I have not had a chance to shoot any of them but the first time i heard of and saw the beowulf the first thing i thought was that this would be the perfect woods rifle for deer/black bear/hogs. I'm sure all three would work just fine, my vote would be for the beowulf because it sounds the coolest haha
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Old 09-25-2008, 07:25 AM   #3
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Default RE: 458 socom, 450 bushmaster,or 50 beowolf

I would stick with the 45-70 because of the ammo availablility. It may not look as cool on paper but its true potential is brought out in handloading.
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Old 09-25-2008, 06:03 PM   #4
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Default RE: 458 socom, 450 bushmaster,or 50 beowolf

Well I have always liked the 45/70. It's a great caliber but I am looking for a big bore semi auto. They are all very similar to the performance of the 45/70 but with the added advantage of being semi auto. I reload so ammo availability isn't really an issue for me. The dies for either the .458 socom or .50 beowulf are actually pretty easy to find and no more than any other set of dies on Midway.
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Old 09-26-2008, 02:55 PM   #5
 
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Default RE: 458 socom, 450 bushmaster,or 50 beowolf

I have a .45-70 Marlin XLR, and i have been thinking about getting a Beowulf. Last year I sold a bunch of guns and don't currently have a semi-auto. I want something that is good for everything, and the Beowulf looks as good as any.
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Old 09-27-2008, 10:57 AM   #6
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Yeah it's pretty impressive but the more I look into them I am really liking the .458 Socom due to it using rifle bullets and not the pistol bullets like the beowulf. Either way I think they are both great guns.
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Old 09-27-2008, 05:47 PM   #7
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Default RE: 458 socom, 450 bushmaster,or 50 beowolf

i agree, .45/70 is the best, while it is a lever gun, if your shootin in thick brush, you only need one shot and a heavy bullet like that as long as youre sighted in, and you make a good, responsible shot, youll kill that ole piggy. the .450 bushmaster from what i ehar is a great caliber, but also the availability/cost of ammo SUCKS one hornady is the only one that makes .450 bm (as to my knowledge) which goes along with the cost, and unless you get your ammo at a big name outdoor store, chances are theres not gonna be any out there. the .50 beowulf is the same way. and as for the .458 socom...............i dunno never heard anything about it

if your really lookin for somethin with a punch grab any shotgun and use slugs, thats about as good a brush gun as you can get imo, as long as you dont mind the weight.
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Old 09-28-2008, 04:19 AM   #8
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I have a 458 socom, 20" bull, have taked several bucks and 1 bear with it, its every bit as effective for hunting as the 45/70.
The 450 bushy is a shortened 284 win case firing a .452 dia. bullet, you only option for a pointed bullet is the bullets intended for muzzleloaders. the 50 beauwolf, also fires pistol bullets and uses a 7.62x39 sized bolt. the others use an '06 sized bolt.
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Default RE: 458 socom, 450 bushmaster,or 50 beowolf

I've heard the .458 socom is great. Does it take special mags or will the standard .223 mags hold them? I'm about to buy a .458 RRA upper for my spare RRA lower
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Old 09-29-2008, 02:07 PM   #10
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same mags, a 20 round AR mag holds 8 458's.
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