I read all the posts that hunters put up on the new bullet or the next generation bullet or the best hunting bullet. I also read with interest about how it is the shot that counts. Then other people say you have to have a "better" bullet if you hunt with a 22 caliber. Now I believe Barnes has a new bullet out that costs 2or3 dollars a piece!!
I realize bullet construction is important if you are hunting large or dangerous game(elk sized and up). But for the average day in day out varmint and deer hunter I just do not think these expensive bullets are necessary.
Can someone please explain to me why the plain old Sierra or Hornady hunting bullet is no longer any good? I just can not understand the need to buy these expensive bullets. Heck I kill a bunch of deer every year with a bullet I cast out of straight Wheel Weight. I guess this is wrong also??
Why don't hunters just use an adequate caliber(I consider that to be 30 caliber), with a good bullet and spend their money on a better scope?? If recoil is a problem then shoot something smaller, but not much smaller. Or just load a larger cartridge down.
I read all the posts about hunter's wanting to use the 223 for deer hunting, or the 22 Hornet?? I am pretty sure those are varmint rounds, not deer rounds.
I would like for some one to show me some actual proof that a $2 bullet will kill a deer better than a plain old Siera Game King. Especially when shot out of an adequate deer cartridge, not a diminutive one. Tom.
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West by God Virginia.
We need to stop using these terms today, "Sniper Rifle", "Tactical", "Assault Weapon".
Hunting has so much media poisoning its veins that even the toughest hunters think that they will look cooler with the $45 box of bullets and the newest version of realtree with UV protection.
Nothing wrong with a CoreLokt on deer...I've killed about 90 of so with it, out of my .243...When it comes to the .22 centerfires and deer, when you go from say a 55gr bullet made for groundhogs to a 60gr Nosler Partition made for deer then you go from a bullet that fragments to a bullet that mushrooms, stays together and gives full penetration on center lung shots...So it makes the .22 calibers more effective on larger game...
It's called America! Choices, personal preferences, bigger and better.....etc....
I personally like new technology. I could still be driving to work in my Nova w/ no AC and an eight track but I prefer driving in my new F-150 with AC and Satellite Radio. Nothing wrong with using new technology and there's nothing wrong sticking with the old. But there's no reason to be critical if the other guy does not like the same as you.
I read all the posts that hunters put up on the new bullet or the next generation bullet or the best hunting bullet. I also read with interest about how it is the shot that counts. Then other people say you have to have a "better" bullet if you hunt with a 22 caliber. Now I believe Barnes has a new bullet out that costs 2or3 dollars a piece!!
And I thought hevi-shot was getting expensive....
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I realize bullet construction is important if you are hunting large or dangerous game(elk sized and up). But for the average day in day out varmint and deer hunter I just do not think these expensive bullets are necessary.
I don't think they are either Tom. There are not too many guns around that won't shoot a Sierra Gameking pretty dang fine. I'm a fan of the Barnes TSX, and now-a-days its what most of my deer are shot with, but thats out of one gun, with one particular load. I just happen to enjoy it a lot. I've got one other Barnes X bullet load which is about dried up (I have three left), and then it and every other cartridge I handload for will either have Hornady SPs or Gamekings for their hunting loads. Why..... cheap, deadly, effective. If you want fine bourbon you can have Elijah Craig or Knob Creek or Bookers or MM. If you just want to get drunk you should try Mad Dog 20/20 or Wild Irish Rose or Boones Farm or 211.
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Can someone please explain to me why the plain old Sierra or Hornady hunting bullet is no longer any good? I just can not understand the need to buy these expensive bullets. Heck I kill a bunch of deer every year with a bullet I cast out of straight Wheel Weight. I guess this is wrong also??
So thats why the economy is the crapper... because you've stopped stimulating it with your free lead! I ought to call your tire center and tell them what that stuff is worth in 25# bags these days
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Why don't hunters just use an adequate caliber(I consider that to be 30 caliber), with a good bullet and spend their money on a better scope?? If recoil is a problem then shoot something smaller, but not much smaller. Or just load a larger cartridge down.
I read all the posts about hunter's wanting to use the 223 for deer hunting, or the 22 Hornet?? I am pretty sure those are varmint rounds, not deer rounds.
I would like for some one to show me some actual proof that a $2 bullet will kill a deer better than a plain old Siera Game King. Especially when shot out of an adequate deer cartridge, not a diminutive one. Tom.
It'd be impossible to prove. But I can tell you this most definatively.... hunting is what you make it. I'll bet you kinda get a real good feeling when you take a deer with a bullet you made yourself, loaded yourself. They aren't armor plated. The key to a good bullet is putting it in the right spot to do its job. A $2 bullet in the can is worthless... but a worthless lead bullet in the powder keg will net you some fantastic results you can measure in pounds and inches.
__________________ You get what you put in, and people get what they deserve. - Kid Rock
It's called America! Choices, personal preferences, bigger and better.....etc....
I personally like new technology. I could still be driving to work in my Nova w/ no AC and an eight track but I prefer driving in my new F-150 with AC and Satellite Radio. Nothing wrong with using new technology and there's nothing wrong sticking with the old. But there's no reason to be critical if the other guy does not like the same as you.
I am not saying you are wrong. Well I am about your F-150. Your F-150 is definitely not new technology.
But I am talking about bullets. What makes this new bullet tecnology better?? That is all I am asking. How can you prove they are better?? Personally I do not believe you can prove they are better, but I am open to suggestions.
And as far as putting a 60 grain partition in a 22 caliber cartridge?? Why?? It still does not make the 22 caliber a deer rifle?? Economics?? Maybe, if you can not afford a second rifle?? But it is definitely not nominal, it is just barely capable. And I honestly doubt the 60 grain partition is any better for deer than what a 60 grain Sierra is?? Or a 75 grain Hornady?? But it definitely costs more.
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West by God Virginia.
We need to stop using these terms today, "Sniper Rifle", "Tactical", "Assault Weapon".
BULLETS-Dimes bit of difference
