7mm. Rem Mag VS. .300 Win. Mag.....RECOIL????
03-17-2008, 08:19 AM
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RE: 7mm. Rem Mag VS. .300 Win. Mag.....RECOIL????
I have a Browning A-Bolt Stalker in 7mm Rem Mag, and one of my hunting buddies has a Browning A-Bolt Stalker in 300 Win Mag. I sight in his gun for him every year, and I can tell you the 300 has more of a sharper "hit" to the shoulder, and the 7mm has more of a steady "push" in recoil. Both have the same muzzle blast, and the same muzzle flip.
I've never shot a Remington bigger than 30-06, so I can't help ya out much. Other than the Remington 30-06 was alot easier on my shoulder than a Savage, or Ruger M77 30-06.
I've never shot a Remington bigger than 30-06, so I can't help ya out much. Other than the Remington 30-06 was alot easier on my shoulder than a Savage, or Ruger M77 30-06.
03-17-2008, 08:36 AM
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RE: 7mm. Rem Mag VS. .300 Win. Mag.....RECOIL????
ORIGINAL: EKM
One effective solution, put some time in with 338's, 375's, 416's, etc. etc. and all of a sudden you'll find BOTH the 7mmRemMag and the 300WinMagto bejust plumb easy and a pure joy to shoot recreationally.
One effective solution, put some time in with 338's, 375's, 416's, etc. etc. and all of a sudden you'll find BOTH the 7mmRemMag and the 300WinMagto bejust plumb easy and a pure joy to shoot recreationally.
03-17-2008, 01:10 PM
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RE: 7mm. Rem Mag VS. .300 Win. Mag.....RECOIL????
ORIGINAL: eldeguello
This is absolutely correct, and is a good way to prepare to shoot all the non-Magnums under .338 caliber......
ORIGINAL: EKM
One effective solution, put some time in with 338's, 375's, 416's, etc. etc. and all of a sudden you'll find BOTH the 7mmRemMag and the 300WinMagto bejust plumb easy and a pure joy to shoot recreationally.
One effective solution, put some time in with 338's, 375's, 416's, etc. etc. and all of a sudden you'll find BOTH the 7mmRemMag and the 300WinMagto bejust plumb easy and a pure joy to shoot recreationally.
DM
03-17-2008, 02:46 PM
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RE: 7mm. Rem Mag VS. .300 Win. Mag.....RECOIL????
ORIGINAL: Rammer
I have a Browning A-Bolt Stalker in 7mm Rem Mag, and one of my hunting buddies has a Browning A-Bolt Stalker in 300 Win Mag. I sight in his gun for him every year, and I can tell you the 300 has more of a sharper "hit" to the shoulder, and the 7mm has more of a steady "push" in recoil. Both have the same muzzle blast, and the same muzzle flip.
I've never shot a Remington bigger than 30-06, so I can't help ya out much. Other than the Remington 30-06 was alot easier on my shoulder than a Savage, or Ruger M77 30-06.
I have a Browning A-Bolt Stalker in 7mm Rem Mag, and one of my hunting buddies has a Browning A-Bolt Stalker in 300 Win Mag. I sight in his gun for him every year, and I can tell you the 300 has more of a sharper "hit" to the shoulder, and the 7mm has more of a steady "push" in recoil. Both have the same muzzle blast, and the same muzzle flip.
I've never shot a Remington bigger than 30-06, so I can't help ya out much. Other than the Remington 30-06 was alot easier on my shoulder than a Savage, or Ruger M77 30-06.
I have no doubt about what you say here. But I have noticed this same difference in the same rifle just by using two different type powder's. I really believe all the other variables make the difference in felt recoil between these two cartridge's. But obviously the 7RM should have slightly less felt recoil when comparing apples to apples. Tom.
03-17-2008, 04:23 PM
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RE: 7mm. Rem Mag VS. .300 Win. Mag.....RECOIL????
Yeah I load RL-22, and 140gr Nosler Accu Bonds for my deer loads. I can't remember what I was shooting for him. I think they were 150gr something or others. So there was a 10gr difference in bullets, and his is all factory ammo, so I have no clue on the powder.
03-17-2008, 07:57 PM
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RE: 7mm. Rem Mag VS. .300 Win. Mag.....RECOIL????
ORIGINAL: Rammer
I have a Browning A-Bolt Stalker in 7mm Rem Mag, and one of my hunting buddies has a Browning A-Bolt Stalker in 300 Win Mag. I sight in his gun for him every year, and I can tell you the 300 has more of a sharper "hit" to the shoulder, and the 7mm has more of a steady "push" in recoil. Both have the same muzzle blast, and the same muzzle flip.
I've never shot a Remington bigger than 30-06, so I can't help ya out much. Other than the Remington 30-06 was alot easier on my shoulder than a Savage, or Ruger M77 30-06.
I have a Browning A-Bolt Stalker in 7mm Rem Mag, and one of my hunting buddies has a Browning A-Bolt Stalker in 300 Win Mag. I sight in his gun for him every year, and I can tell you the 300 has more of a sharper "hit" to the shoulder, and the 7mm has more of a steady "push" in recoil. Both have the same muzzle blast, and the same muzzle flip.
I've never shot a Remington bigger than 30-06, so I can't help ya out much. Other than the Remington 30-06 was alot easier on my shoulder than a Savage, or Ruger M77 30-06.
Thats a decent example. I'd say as well its a lot like shooting an over/under shotgun (not as far as the amount of kick is concerned), but you can tell a difference between the bottom barrel and the top barrel... its more muzzle rise than anything... and its not a heck of a lot, but you can tell if you pay attention to it. Same as shooting a light weight semi-auto shotgun, then switching to a pump gun in the same gauge. Its just a bit different.
03-18-2008, 06:22 PM
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RE: 7mm. Rem Mag VS. .300 Win. Mag.....RECOIL????
Most rifle manufacturers 7mm and 300 WM rifles are using the same action, so this post assumes equal weight/design rifles.
The 300 win mag produces approx 500 ft/lbs more of KE. In general there is a price to be paid for that additional performance, even when the bullets are the same weight.The recoil relates more closely to the ft lbs of momentum generatedthan it does to the KE.
Soa 300 WMfiring a 150 grain bulletmay have similar recoil to a 7mm Rem mag with a 175 grain bullet even thought the WM has greater KE. However when you move to the 200+ grain end of the win mag ammo and then evaluate the two rifles there will be significantly more recoil in the 300 WM. This is even true when the KE values of the 150 and 200 grain bullets are equal.
IThe answer depends on what end of the bullet weight spectrum you are looking to use in each cartridge.
The 300 win mag produces approx 500 ft/lbs more of KE. In general there is a price to be paid for that additional performance, even when the bullets are the same weight.The recoil relates more closely to the ft lbs of momentum generatedthan it does to the KE.
Soa 300 WMfiring a 150 grain bulletmay have similar recoil to a 7mm Rem mag with a 175 grain bullet even thought the WM has greater KE. However when you move to the 200+ grain end of the win mag ammo and then evaluate the two rifles there will be significantly more recoil in the 300 WM. This is even true when the KE values of the 150 and 200 grain bullets are equal.
IThe answer depends on what end of the bullet weight spectrum you are looking to use in each cartridge.
