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Old 09-19-2007, 07:44 PM   #1
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Default Short or Long Action-6mm rifle project...

Okay guys, I have some money saved in my "gun fund", now I am trying to decide what to build. I know that I want to build a 6mm something. Either a .243 Win, .243 Ackley, 6mmx284, or a 6mm-06 Ackley or maybe even a 6mm BR if it could be a repeater. What do you think?

Midway has both CZ and Rem 700 actions available, I really like the CZ single set trigger...???

I'm pretty sure I will do a Pac-Nor barrel, and an HS stock...

It will be a varmint/deer rifle, around 11 lbs with scope and bipod will be fine.


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Old 09-19-2007, 09:59 PM   #2
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Just something to think about....we all know fiddling with bullet seating depths can be a frustrating thing when limited to magazine well length. If it was a solid box single shot or a break-open, no problem. With a magazine involved it can be a bit of a problem. Action lengths and feeding are something to consider........
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Old 09-19-2007, 10:32 PM   #3
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Old 09-20-2007, 01:31 PM   #4
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Thanks guys, the OAL in a short action was something that I was thinking about. I think a Long action would probably be the best too.

I was just looking at Mini-30's also, I think one chambered in 6mm BR or PPCmight be more fun then a bolt gun... oh decisions...
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Old 09-20-2007, 07:27 PM   #5
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I've got a 6mm PPC mini, shoots well but takes alot of money to get them there. I think you best bet would be a 9 twist 6mm AI, and unless you wanna shoot the vld's it'll work fine on a short action.
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Old 09-21-2007, 01:38 PM   #6
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Thanks RR, who built your Mini for you? I was looking at Accuracy Systems rifles...

I think a 6mmx284 with a 700 Long action is probably what I have decided on. I might even do a Magnum Research barrel....
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Old 09-21-2007, 02:03 PM   #7
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That 6X284 is a real smoker. I have looked at one myself. Just be aware that brass is unavailable. You will have to resize from other brass. Be careful with the Ruger's. If accuracy is what you are after I would go with the AR platform. There are very many new caliber upper's available. Also resale if needed would be considerably more advantageous over the Mini. Tom.


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Old 09-21-2007, 02:24 PM   #8
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I would love to buy an AR instead of the Mini, but I live in the DemocraticRepublic of Kalifornia [:@]. I did find a loop-hole to "build" my AR that I currently have, but I'm not going to hunt with it or use it too much until they figure out the laws here. Thats pretty much the only reason I was looking at the Minis.
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Old 09-21-2007, 04:38 PM   #9
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Jeep ARS of odessa tx did both of my mini's, the owner has since passed on,not that much to it though, just put a good barrel on and don't jack the gas block out of kelter and they shoot good. I've heard nothing but good from ASI.
about the 6-284, great cartridge, has awesome ballistics, but its like alot of them out there, not much on barrel life. if your gonna dump 2 grand in a custom job, will you settle for 1000 round barrel life? Thats why I reccomended the 6mm AI, it'll do 95% of what a 6-284 or a 6/06 will and give you another 50% barrel life, sure you can set it back if you go slow twist, you can't get any usable barrel life by setting back fast twist barrels. a pic of my mini's....maybe, the thumbhole is the 6 PPC

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Old 09-21-2007, 07:17 PM   #10
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Those are some nice rifles RR. About the caliber, okay, now I don't really want the 6x284, I thought they allhad about the same barrel life. Do you think the 6mm AI would be better then the .243 AI? I am now between those two. I am leaning towards the .243 just because I have a bunch of brass and ammo... But its not that big of deal...

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And I plan on shooting 80gr. Bergers and 85gr. TSX's and maybe some A-Maxs or VLD Bergers, would the short action handle those, or should I go long? I am planning a 1/12 twist, I hope it will be fine?? Thats the only twist Magnum Research makes for a 6mm tube.
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