logo
 

Go Back   HuntingNet.com Forums > Firearms Forum > Guns

Guns Like firearms themselves, there"™s a wide variety of opinions on what"™s the best gun.

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 05-20-2007, 06:21 PM   #1
 
TYLER_ROOKIE_HUNTER's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location:
Posts: 24
Default HELP!!!

how do you figure out the caliber of a gun,because i bought a old milatary rifle and the guy i bought it off of said it was a 7mm but the cartridge is too big and on the barrel it doesnt say anthing about the caliber all it has is a number "4415"
__________________
WVU #1
TYLER_ROOKIE_HUNTER is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-2007, 07:21 PM   #2
Fork Horn
 
mello_collins's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Columbia SC USA
Posts: 377
Default RE: HELP!!!

take it to a gunsmith
mello_collins is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-2007, 07:31 PM   #3
Giant Nontypical
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: fort mcmurray alberta canada
Posts: 5,673
Default RE: HELP!!!

Quote:
i bought a old milatary rifle and the guy i bought it off of said it was a 7mm but the cartridge is too big
When you say the 7mm cartridge is too big,did you mean the 7mmremmag?The 7mmremmag was first commercially chambered in 1962 and an old military rifle would not have been chambered for this cartridge.It is possible that the rifle is chambered for the 7x57 which was chambered in old military rifles.Obviously you have no idea what you bought,so the smart thing is to do as was previously suggested and take it to a gunsmith.
stubblejumper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-2007, 11:31 PM   #4
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 518
Default RE: HELP!!!

Well thank God you couldn't fire it!
M77man is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-21-2007, 06:47 AM   #5
Nontypical Buck
 
younggun308's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Tennessee
Posts: 3,661
Default RE: HELP!!!

take it to the gunsmith, do you know if it's a Germa Mauser, an Italian Carcano? A Chilean Mauser, a Swiss K-31? A Mosin Nagant?
__________________
Jesus Rules!


younggun308 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-21-2007, 07:25 AM   #6
Giant Nontypical
 
eldeguello's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Texas - BUT NOW in Madison County, NY
Posts: 6,277
Default RE: HELP!!!

Quote:
ORIGINAL: TYLER_ROOKIE_HUNTER

how do you figure out the caliber of a gun,because i bought a old milatary rifle and the guy i bought it off of said it was a 7mm but the cartridge is too big and on the barrel it doesnt say anthing about the caliber all it has is a number "4415"
The "caliber" of a gun isusually the measurement of its' bore diameter expressed in inches of millimeters. The bore diameter is the sizeof the hole bored through the barrel BEFOREthe rifling grooves are cut. ("Land diameter"). For example, a ".30 caliber" has a bore diameter of .300".

However, sometimes a caliber is named for the total diameter of the hole after the grooves have been cut. For example, the ".308 Winchester". This is a cartridge named for the groove diameter, but it is a ".30 caliber", and shoots the exact same bullets as a .30/'06 or a .300 Weatherby - the bullets for all these measure .308" in diameter.

Where confusionconfusion comes from isthe fact that, whether anyspecific cartridge can be used in a specific gun,depends not only on the diameterof the bullet, ("bullet" means the projectile that is fired, NOT a complete cartridge!) but also on the dimensions of the specific cartridge for which the gun is chambered. For example, there are quite a few DIFFERENT 7mm cartridges, all of which use bullets in the range of .284" to .288" in diameter, but which have very different cartridge cases. They are therefore NOT usable in the same guns even though the bullets themselves may be identical.

A good example of this is the 7mm Mauser, a relatively small cased round and the 7mmRemington Magnum. I have rifles in both calibers, andload ammo for both, often using the same bullets! But due to the big difference in their cartridgecase sizes, one uses a lot more powder (the 7mm Rem, Mag.), and can be loaded to give a much higher MV than the 7mm Mauser does with the identical projectile. And neither round can be used in a rifle chambered for the other one, even though both are "7mm's"!

IF the rifle you have is a 7mm military rifle, it is probably some kind of Mauser, and will most likely be chambered for the 7X57mm Mauser cartridge. The 7mm Remington Mag., or any otther 7mm Magnum round, will be way too big to fit that gun!

(Thee may be some, but I personally have NEVER seen a military rifle with a caliber designation on it. I guess most armies just assume the troops will use the correct ammo!)
__________________
"Bitte, trinks du das Wasser nicht. Dahin haben die Kuhen gesheissen."
eldeguello is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-21-2007, 08:19 AM   #7
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location:
Posts: 4,554
Default RE: HELP!!!

Taking it to a knowledgable gunsmith makes the most sense.
Red Lion is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-21-2007, 08:31 AM   #8
Giant Nontypical
 
eldeguello's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Texas - BUT NOW in Madison County, NY
Posts: 6,277
Default RE: HELP!!!

Quote:
ORIGINAL: Red Lion

Taking it to a knowledgable gunsmith makes the most sense.
I agree. The challenge comes in the word "knowledgeable"!
__________________
"Bitte, trinks du das Wasser nicht. Dahin haben die Kuhen gesheissen."
eldeguello is offline   Reply With Quote
 
 
Reply


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off

 

All times are GMT -8. The time now is 02:00 AM.