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Old 01-29-2007, 01:41 AM   #1
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I need some help. I got talked into buying a Zeiss Conquest 6.5x20x50 for a Custom barreled 6.5x284 Encore that I plan to use for groundhogs. The scope has the Mil-Dot Reticle. This is the first Mil-Dot I have ever owned. I went to the Zeiss web site for an explanation on how to use their Mil-Dot. I could not find anything. There was not any information in the box either. I looked up a couple of sites on Mil-Dot's. Kinda vague-maybe I did not find the right site? Is the Zeiss Mil-Dot different? Is there a standard for all Mil-Dot's? Anybody got a simple explanation that a Hillbilly Redneck might understand? Tom.
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Old 01-29-2007, 03:32 AM   #2
 
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It's too early to explain this one.
Mil's are like degrees (on a compass). Except there are 6400 mil's in a circle instead of 360. There are roughly 17.777 mil's in one degree.A mil is roughly worth 1 meter inwidth or heightat 1000 meters. Confused yet? I was when my drill sergeants first tried to cram this down my throat years ago.

We use mils for lots of reason, but for your scope it's used for range and deflection estimation. To estimate range with the mil dots, you need at least one known factor. Usually theheight of your target or something next to it. The easiest thing to use is an adult male torso, which is roughly 1 Meter tall. Or ahousehold doorway which is roughly 2 meters tall.If you look at a 1 meter tall target through your scope, and it covers 1 mil, guess how far away it is? 1000 meters. If it covers 2 mil's, it's 500 meters away. get it? It may be confusing nowbut when it "clicks" you'll slap your head and say, "this is so easy"!


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Old 01-29-2007, 05:41 AM   #3
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Old 01-29-2007, 10:09 AM   #4
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First you need to find out what power the mil dots are valid. I bet 10X. Next, I suggest buying a mildot calculator.

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Old 01-29-2007, 10:16 AM   #5
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I tried to find that out at the Zeiss web site. Nothing there. Unbelievably vague. I will try the site that Dan recommended. Mil-Dot calculator-WOW I should have just bought the Leupold with VH reticle. I have a couple of them, and they work great. Oh well-something new to work with. Ain't that a shame. I guess I will just have to shoot it. What a drag. Tom.
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I tried to find that out at the Zeiss web site. Nothing there. Unbelievably vague. I will try the site that Dan recommended. Mil-Dot calculator-WOW I should have just bought the Leupold with VH reticle. I have a couple of them, and they work great. Oh well-something new to work with. Ain't that a shame. I guess I will just have to shoot it. What a drag. Tom.
When you say the VH reticle works great, what do you mean? I have tried them, and they are always off. You can't just use the lines to coorespond to 300yards, and then 400 yards, and 500 yards. For dead zero, they are different on differnet guns for different scope heights. Mil Dot works off the same principle, but at least its a standard where, when one learnsto use, it, they can make accurate determinations, on range.

Maybe a little advanced for you. Back to the kiddy table with your Leupold recticle.
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Once you learn to usemil dots you'll like it.Best thing is, you've already got the scope on target. Once you get your range you're ready to fire without fiddling around with extra equipment.It's a perishable skill, so you have to practice some.
And by the way, an average whitetail doe is...you guessed it...roughly 1 metertall frombackbone to ground, so there's another known factor for range estimation.
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Old 01-29-2007, 01:05 PM   #8
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Ranger that is great advice!! And right on the money.
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Old 01-29-2007, 01:41 PM   #9
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ok, you need to know where the mil-dot reticle is regulated at, some companies use 10x and some use full power. but 1 mil is 3.6" per 100 yards of range,at 1000 yds a mil is 36".
get a cheap pda with exbal and set your adjustments on mils and it'll tell you exactly where to hold. personly I use moa for drop and mils for windage. mil-dots are excellant for targets that are around 6' (people) so to me its more a military thing. now the leupold TMR is useful to me in the field.
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