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Old 10-26-2006, 08:05 PM   #1
 
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Got my new Shooting Times today and guess what? A Springfield Enhanced Micro 1911 ownes the cover, and a Springfield 1911 of another persausion ownes the back cover!! When it's not a 1911 It'll be the Springfield X-D! We do know who has the most advertising dollars these days. What I'd like to see is a real endurance test pitting the 1911, the X-D and the Glock and maybe the H-K and a few others in a real world comparison. Not just what a bunch of pen jocky's want to tell us when their sallary is being paid by the same manufactures.
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Considering gun manufacturers PAY to have those article written, you will never see an "accurate"article on a firearm. Either get used to the fact, or quit subscribing because the publishers will not change one thing.
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Old 10-27-2006, 08:27 AM   #4
 
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Those articles are the reason why the gun clubs and internet forums are full of geeks carrying 1911's in $200.00 IWB holsters, clip on easy open knives, pepper spray, and a Surefire flashlights under their photographer's vest. All of them knowing "they not only talk the talk, but they walk the walk"

Actually I have a number of 1911's but I don't feel they're superior to Glocks, HK's, S&W's, etc. But I do enjoy chuckling at the "hardcore gun experts" strolling around the gun shows.
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Old 10-27-2006, 08:30 AM   #5
 
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to each their own.
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Got my new Shooting Times today and guess what? A Springfield Enhanced Micro 1911 ownes the cover, and a Springfield 1911 of another persausion ownes the back cover!! When it's not a 1911 It'll be the Springfield X-D! We do know who has the most advertising dollars these days. What I'd like to see is a real endurance test pitting the 1911, the X-D and the Glock and maybe the H-K and a few others in a real world comparison. Not just what a bunch of pen jocky's want to tell us when their sallary is being paid by the same manufactures.
Why don't you get together a good sampling of comparable handguns, do your own test and review, and let us know your outcome? You probably own a sample of a couple of different makes already?
Many firearms are like debating what is better a ford, chevy, dodge, etc...Most end up being fairly equivalent quality with a manufacturer coming up with a new twist one year and to have other manufacturers copy it quickly.
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Actually I have a number of 1911's but I don't feel they're superior to Glocks, HK's, S&W's, etc.
And, that's why USPSA had to start a "special" classification within which the Glocks, HK's, S&W's, etc., could compete among themselves instead of against the 1911's. 1911's dominate competitionsfor a reason, and it's got nothing to do with who is paying for a favorable review...
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I am surprised that no one has mentioned the "Gun Tests" publication so far.

http://www.gun-tests.com/

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Money is money, and longrifle has made a valid point about how our publishing world works. Different handguns, have different strengths and purposes. Its up to the buyer to decide what's important to him and make his purchase accordingly. You all feel free to correct me but this is what I've gathered the *general* outline on the topic is. If you want the highest accuracy or any nostalgia/collectability or just a 'full size' gun, the 1911 are what you want to look at. If you want the absolute best in dependability, and indestructability you should look elsewhere. And I don't think a 1911 would fair too poorly in a straight endurance test *unless* the number of jams was part of it. Why? Well, probably because I'm a fan and admirer of anything that isA. Browning designed and partly because expensive-to-manufactor designs don't stay around for no reason.

O.K. since I know I'm out of my area you can proceed to tear that all to shreds.
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If you want the highest accuracy or any nostalgia/collectability or just a 'full size' gun, the 1911 are what you want to look at. If you want the absolute best in dependability, and indestructability you should look elsewhere. And I don't think a 1911 would fair too poorly in a straight endurance test *unless* the number of jams was part of it. Why? Well, probably because I'm a fan and admirer of anything that isA. Browning designed and partly because expensive-to-manufactor designs don't stay around for no reason.
I've got thousands and thousands of rounds through my 2 1911's, both ParaOrdnance P14-45's. The only time I had a jamming problem was when I first acquired my 2nd P14 and itdidn't want to feed the reloads frommy first P14. I adjusted the OAL of my reloads from 1.25" to 1.246" and, voila, no more jams. After adjusting it, I literally haven't had a single jam in many many thousands of rounds.
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