marlin guide gun

goos_blues · 08-06-2006, 02:42 PM

I was just wondering if anyone knew why marlin doesn't make a 450 guide rifle in stainless steel.

Matt in IL · 08-06-2006, 08:05 PM

Im not sure why, but you can get one done at wild west guns. They do really nice work.

biscuit jake · 08-06-2006, 08:10 PM

So.... can we recommend the 45-70 to you? Ballistically speaking, 20 million dead bison can't be wrong.

goos_blues · 08-06-2006, 09:43 PM

Yeah, but im still going to get a 450 some day, 1895m but ill wait awhile, maybe they'll make in stainless. I saw a show once where a guy shot a buffalo with a sharps in 45/70 and it wasnt very impressive. I dont think the old fur hunters could drop buffalo as easy as they said. Not with the 45/70 anyway.

flcracker · 08-07-2006, 10:19 AM

What do you think a 2000 pound animal is going to do....just roll over when hit? Maybe if you get a spine shot or both shoulders but come on...the damn thing is the largest animal on this continent. There is nothing...repeat nothing....that a 450 can do that a 45-70 can't. especially if you handload. Take a 400 plus grain hardcast bullet and throw it a close to 2000 fps and it'll zip through a buffalo no problem. Besides I wasn't around 130 years ago to talk to any old fur hunters to get their opinion on what they think worked or not.......now all i have to do is listen to full of sh-t gunwriters who have been rehashing the same stories for 130 years.....with 130 years of someone else's spin on it.

lovethebigguns · 08-07-2006, 10:24 AM

I'm not trying to change the topic of this thread or anything like that, but what aboutthe 444 Marlin? Marlin makes it in Stainless.

hartshot101 · 08-07-2006, 04:25 PM

man id almost give my right leg for a 444 or 4570 or a 450 marlin in my opinion now that the lever evolution ammo came out i would take a marlin lever over Any rifle today as long as the shots are under 200yds.

goos_blues · 08-07-2006, 10:15 PM

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ORIGINAL: flcracker

What do you think a 2000 pound animal is going to do....just roll over when hit? Maybe if you get a spine shot or both shoulders but come on...the damn thing is the largest animal on this continent. There is nothing...repeat nothing....that a 450 can do that a 45-70 can't. .

The stories claim they would drop. I said i DIDNTthink the would drop, like the stories say. Also, i know the 45/70 can do whatever the 450 can do.It isnt going to make much of a difference..i never said it couldnt. by the way, im not hunting buffalo with it. Never said i was. I know theres nothing wrong with the 45/70, i just want a 450. Nothing wrong with 45/70 or the 444, I just want a 450

lovethebigguns · 08-08-2006, 02:45 AM

goos blues, buy ya a 450!!

It's a great round! I just mentioned 444 because I knew they made that in Stainless like you were asking for.
There's a lot of hypeabout the 45/70, there always has been. I've got a couple of 444's and I can't tell you how many people have said "why didn't you buy a 45/70?" because I don't want a 45/70, I wanta 444!!!
(Sound familiar)

Sounds like you know exactly what you want and I'd say get it buddy!

DANTHEHUNTER · 08-08-2006, 07:28 AM

I hear what you are saying about the .444 but the .450 and the 45/70 are basiclly the same round. The 45/70 is more user friendly by being able to find factory ammo at many locations. I hand load and I can make my 45/70 be any where on the power scale , up to and including the .450's range.The 45/70 is made in many brands and styles of rifles. That alone will change alot of minds. The .444 is a great round I had one for many years I just like the old 45/70 better. And its like shooting a piece of our history. Just think that was a military round for severl years !!!