which of these do you like. i'ld like to get a serious varmit/long range accurate gun. for the price i'm thinking of an h&r. i was thinking of the ultra varmiter in .223 or the ultra varmiter/fluted in 22-250. they both have 24" bull barrels(varmiter/fluted is fluted). the .223 has a really nice laminated stock and the .22-250 is a skeleton stock with an elevation adjustment on it. the .223 has alot cheaper ammo but it doesn't have the range but it won't burn out a barrel very fast. the 22-250 has a good bit more range but the ammo's a little more pricey and is harder on a barrel. what would your choice be??? i'll try to get some pics of them.
here's the .223
here's the 22-250
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I think you kind of answered your own question: the .223 is a lot more economical to shoot, but comes up about 500 fps shy of the .22-250 performance. For prairie dogs and other high volume varmint shooting, get the .223. But for coyotes and bobcats, the extra performance of the faster caliber is worth the extra cost, IMO.
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For serious varmint/long range I would go with the 22-250. I really like the design and the looks of the skeleton stock. I actually looked at one in the store. It handled very nice but I"™m not sure how practical it would be in the field compared to the range?
Whats your definition of "long range?" Since everyones definition is different its hard to reccomend you a gun. I know that a 223 will kill a coyote at 475 yards (lasered). You already know the advantages of each cartridge, so its going to be up to you as to what fits your bill better. If it was me I'd go for the 223 for the economical reason, and I know what it is capable of.
Hunter, I have A H&R in 223, it isplenty accuratebut I think the trigger would limit me in the field. It is fairly crisp but it pulls like 8 lb with no adjustment(that would be tough at 400yds)you could probably remedy this but I would look at A savage with the accutrigger. Guys love them and they are relatively cheap. btw, Ifyou don't reload you will likethe 223, cha ching!
I think the trigger would limit me in the field. It is fairly crisp but it pulls like 8 lb with no adjustment(that would be tough at 400yds)
there's no way you can get the trigger adjusted???
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Any reputable gunsmith can adjust these triggers down to 3 or 3.5 lbs. Also, if you plan to reload, don't try to push the pressures/velocities at all with the break action guns you pictured. They perform best with slightly reduced loads in most cases. For an inexpensive varmint rifle, you might look at the new Stevens 200. They have on sale around here for a little over $300 with a scope mounted.
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which of these do you like. i'ld like to get a serious varmit/long range accurate gun. for the price i'm thinking of an h&r. i was thinking of the ultra varmiter in .223 or the ultra varmiter/fluted in 22-250. they both have 24" bull barrels(varmiter/fluted is fluted). the .223 has a really nice laminated stock and the .22-250 is a skeleton stock with an elevation adjustment on it. the .223 has alot cheaper ammo but it doesn't have the range but it won't burn out a barrel very fast. the 22-250 has a good bit more range but the ammo's a little more pricey and is harder on a barrel. what would your choice be??? i'll try to get some pics of them.
here's the .223
here's the 22-250
That's easy. The .22-250. A fast and accurate round.
In the hands of a skilled rifleman, either caliber works fine. Just because the .223 doesn't get quite the highmarks of a .22-250 for ballistics doesn't make it less deadly.
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.223 vs. .22-250
