VINTAGE BOLT ACTIONS (NAGANT 7.65X54R OR MAUSER 8MM) AND WHY

[glock29rd]

I HAVE had experience with both i like the mauser action it has been alot smoother then my m38 nagant but on the other had i like the ballistics of my 7.62x54r.....MY CHOICE
nagant 7.62x54r.......my favorite all time vintage bolt action is the m1903 in 30.06..


also anydody out there like the .303 british.. i would like to buy one sometime..
i like to collect vintage bolt actions.......thats my passion...

[glock29rd]

I MEANT 7.62X54R NOT 7.65.......LOL.....

[Briman]

I like the mauser much better- much more refined, much smoother, much better trigger, much better quality control. 1909 Argentine and 1896 swedish mausers are the very pinacle of Mauser in terms of quality With Brazillian and Persian mausers not far behind.

All else being equal, I'd take the 1903 springfield over any one of them.

The M1 Garand trumps them all

[Charley]

The M1 Garand trumps them all

. Not to be nasty, but DUHH! The Garand is at least two generations further along in small arms technology. Not exactly a fair comparison to look at a rifle that entered service in 1936 vs one that entered service in 1891.

I kind of lean towards the Mannlicher and Schmidt Rubin straight pulls myself. Neat rifles, and the Mannlicherssaw a lot more service than most people know.

I do have a bunch of others, and like shooting and hunting with them as well. Currently have 18 Mosin Nagants, and my bad weather hunting rifle is a home made MN 91/30 sniper. Primary hunting rifle is a Swede M38 that somebody sportered.

[pharaoh2]

I like the .303. I've owned a few, and know quite a few people who hunt with them exclusivly. My best friend will not hunt with nothing else.

[aunsaber]

I have at least one of each, they all have their good pionts. They all shoot very well.

I prefer the mauser because you can find more parts more easily.
You can get a good trigger for the mauser also.

[glock29rd]

i am thinking about going for an idaho grand slam with my nagant...lol....
i love my nagant rifle.....

[Chubber]

I started hunting with my M48A Mauser and Remmington Soft Points. It was nice, and I was able to start hunting for around $125 out the door. In the heavy woods of VA it was just the ticket as I didn't need a scope to see 50 yards and the 8mm was enough to take any deer. But, the metallic sights meant I missed the first and last 20 minutes of prime shooting time as I could not see the sights well enough to target. Never had to let one walk because of it, but it worried me.

So I bought a CVA inline muzzle loader and put a BSA Catseye scope on it. Total price $180 and about as accurate. Accurate out to about 150 yards (too hard to guess bullet drop after that, not an accuracy problem with powerbelt bullets).

At the range, my M38 is much smoother than the M48. The wood is trash, the metal is rusty and pitted, the bolt is gray from pitting. But the barrel just keeps shooting and the action is so smooth that I am just as accurate as with my very new M48A.

I haven't found a russian gun that I think is accurate enough to take game. Don't get me wrong, I have about 6 examples, but the barrels are all substandard and hunting ammo is hard to find.

I also like the .303, but the only rifle I own in that caliber is a Jungle rifle. I don't mind carrying a heavy rifle, so I never bothered to field the jungle carbine. I DO like the peep sights on it and it is easy adjustible for range. .303 has taken more African game in every size that any caliber except maybe the 30-06.

[eldeguello]

Everybody should own at least one Moisin-Nagant during his lifetime. But they are the kind of rifle you add on after buying a good one. Get a M98 Mauser first!

[Vesi]

I say this is a close call, it depends on both the Mauser and the Moisin nagant. I would pick a Finnish Moisin Nagant over any Mauser, but virtually any mauser over a Russian Moisin Nagant.

Difficult choice between two great rifles.