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Old 01-17-2004, 09:06 AM   #1
 
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Which 7mm Mag would you reccomend for long shots on GA deer and hogs. Most shots will be 250 yards or closer, but some may be out to 400. I am looking at the 7mm Rem Mag., 7mm Rem Ultra Mag., and the 7mm STW. Which one would you prefer and why? Whichever one I get, I plan on putting a Sims recoil pad on to take some of the kick out, but I'm not too worried about it. Thanks,

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Old 01-17-2004, 10:57 AM   #2
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I own two 7mmstw's and a 7mmultramag and have owned two 7mmremmags.If you don't handload forget the stw and ultramag as factory loads are pathetically mild,are expensive and are avaliable in few loadings.The 7mmstw and 7mm ultramag provide little advantage until well over 300 yards so again they offer few advantages for the average shooter.The next thing to consider is how much time and money are you planning on spending on practising and do you have a 400 yard or 500 yard range nearby?If you have access to a 400 yard or 500 yard range and are prepaired to shoot several hundred rounds at various ranges to develop and maintain the shooting skills necessary to consistantly place your bullets at 400 yards the stw and ultramag may be a good choice.If however you aren't willing to make this commitment you will not be able to take advantage of the superflat tradjectories that the stw and ultramag offer and will be better off with the 7mmremmag.I actually prefer the 7mmstw over the 7mmultramag as the ultramag only offers an extra 50fps to 75fps over the stw but burns a great deal more powder at the expense of even shorter barrel life to accomplish this.
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Old 01-17-2004, 12:01 PM   #3
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For deer out to 400 yards? 280 Remington. On deer its as good of Seven as you will ever need. Save the powder.
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On paper and at the range the STW is my first pick! Like the man said,if you don't reload not a good choice. The 7mag...
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Old 01-17-2004, 11:47 PM   #6
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I would have to agree with James......out to 400 yards the various 7mm. mags offer you nothing over the 280 Rem except burning more powder.


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I too am in agreement with James and doubleA.

A 140 grain bullet at 3000fps out of a .280 is pretty dang flat shooting and will take any deer that walks this earth.

The 7mm STW and 7mm ultra mag are simply not needed unless you are regularly shooting at elk and moose at distances over 400 yards. Save the money, powder and your shoulder.
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Old 01-18-2004, 07:41 PM   #9
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Im not going to take sides here. But if you will look on a box of 280. rem. They also say 280. or 7 mm . the old 7 mm. I do agree that the 7 stw would be the choice of the 7ns. Just an opinion.
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Old 01-18-2004, 09:21 PM   #10
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The 7MM STW is flatter. Shoots faster, hits harder, Kicks harder cost more . However the 280 will do that same job, drop a deer at 400 yards just as well as any of the thunder cannons. To me shooting beyond 400 yards at any game animal is not an option so there is no need for a bunch of unecessary noise, recoil and expense. I have learned that for me enough is enough. The 270 and 280 will deliever around 1500 lbs ME at 400 yards. Do you need more? No. Can you have more if you wany? Of course thats what they make gun powder for. When they say it offers nothing more they mean dead is dead. That with 2200 lbs ME or 1600 ME. If that is not enough power though I quess we could use the Warbird with its 168 grain X bullet at 3700 fps. Or wait another year or so until that one is a peashooter as well. After that the 7mm-08, 280, 270. and the other little guns will still be dropping big game in their tracks as they have for many years. Good hunting guys. If I was to get a 7mm Mag it would be the Winchester Coyote in 7MM WSM.
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