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Old 03-27-2011, 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Ridge Runner
well switch the 7mm bullet from the tsx, which isn't a good long distance bullet at all, for a 180 berger, or the 200 wildcat, if loaded to the same pressures, the 7mm would be alot flatter, why cause of a higher BC. but the stw will do the same or better with less powder and better barrel life, if your talkin 5oo yards. I'f I'm gonna be shooting, I'll choose the bullet that works best, for my purposes, why handicap any cartridge with the wrong bullet, the thread was based on a 180 gr in the 300 RUM if I recall correctly.
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You recalled correctly, you are the one to bring up the 7mm STW and the 200gr. wildcat bullets, that has nothing to do with this thread. I just pointed out with the average hunting bullets in the 180gr. bullet weight of the 300 Rum there is no comparison. Yeah I could step up to a bullet of higher B.C and give you the data for Cutting Edge Bullets, but how many people on here actually hunt with Wildcat bullets or Cutting Edge bullets? Also the 7mm does not carry the energy that the 300 Rum carries at 500+ yards

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Old 03-27-2011, 09:22 AM
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How are you getting 3000fps out of a 200gr. bullet? My loading data only shows 3100fps with a 175gr. bullet. Also my data shows the RUM with a 200gr bullet at 3100fps.
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Old 03-27-2011, 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Ridge Runner
cause thats what I get fired through a pact professional chrony, with no pressure signs.
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So this is your data? No one eles has data to support your claims. So you are compareing your experemental data out of a custom gun for the STW against known published safe loading data for the 300 RUM out of a factory rifle?

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Old 03-27-2011, 09:47 AM
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Well I do go by facts, that are known and published, unlike you. Here is actual known balistics for the 300RUM. http://www.cpcartridge.com/300ultraB.htm
I do have a chonograph by the way, but do not make outrageous claims that you do, and publish unsafe loading data. And yes I do have two 300 RUM's, a SPS and a Sendero. Also My boss has a Sendero chambered in the 7mm STW and he doesnt get near what you claim, we have chronographed it several times, it shoots about 200-300fps more than my 280 does with the same bullet. He gets 3200fps out of a Hornady 154gr. SST my 280 gets 2980 with the same bullet using a lot less powder.

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Old 03-27-2011, 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Ridge Runner
they're not outrageous claims, just what I know to be a fact, we know all barrels are different, what the difference is varies, But I know what my rifles do, The max loads I establish for them are probably running a bit higher on pressures than some others but, If I don't get 3 loadings before I lose the pockets I back them off till I do. so I know these are safe loads. you have a chrony, but post some guys chart of reman ammo? guess the chrony shares a spot in the safe with your 338 edge. what a load
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I dont publish my chrony results because I dont feel it is safe for other people to try and duplicate them. That is why I published known safe loading levels for ALL rifles. And no my chrony or my 338 Edge dont stay in the safe, both are available for you to see at anytime. You are publishing your experemental loads out of a custom rifle and trying to compare them to the safe loading levels of the 300RUM out of a factory built gun. Yeah that is a good comparison! LMAO!!!! I think my point has been made!

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Old 03-27-2011, 10:16 AM
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Im not the one claiming to be the expert. Im just calling B.S.
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Old 03-27-2011, 10:26 AM
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Hey RR...just for kicks run a 180 Berger in the .300 RUM and a 180 Berger in the 7mm STW/RUM and see how the drops work out... I'm curious...
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Old 03-27-2011, 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Ridge Runner
you always do, cause ya don't know enough to know ya don't know. I've given you the data to figure it out for yourself, but thats not good enough, your always pointing me out to be a liar, the ball is in your court, can you prove I'm lying?
this is gettin old, I post a group you call me a liar, I state facts you call me a liar. just another keyboard commando.
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I am just stateing the known facts! You are claiming velocities that no one else seems to be getting, so yeah I call it as I see it! You take it for what it is!
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Old 03-27-2011, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Ridge Runner
I did, its nothing, I have a rem 700, 26" lilja 9 twist 4 groove barrel, with a min. spec chamber, is it the fastest STW ever recorded, hardly, if you ever saw layne simpsons data you would know better. what have I stated that is wrong?
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I just looked at Layne Simpsons data, he is getting 3128fps with a 160gr. nosler partition. You are mirraculuosly getting 3340fps with a 160gr.

Here are his loads,

Sierra 120-gr. SPT VV N170 81.0 3611

Barnes 130-gr. XBT H1000 80.0 3562

Nosler 140-gr. Ballistic Tip Reloder 22 75.0 3378

Swift 150-gr. Scirocco Reloder 25 82.0 3362

Nosler 160-gr. Partition H50BMG 92.0 3128

Remington 160-gr. C-L Ultra AA 8700 89.0 3220

Sierra 168-gr. MatchKing Reloder 25 75.0 3102

Swift 175-gr. A-Frame VV 20N29 93.0 3045

NOTES: Velocity is the average of five rounds measured 12 feet from the muzzle of a Rifles, Inc. Custom Model 700 with a Shilen 26-inch barrel. Remington cases and Remington 91/2 primers were used in all loads. All powder charges are maximum and should be reduced by 10 percent for starting loads.
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Old 03-27-2011, 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Ridge Runner
that is either bogus or updated info, the scirroco didn't even exist when the stw was debuted in 1989.
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Hell I will give you the link.

http://www.shootingtimes.com/ammunit...terner_200812/
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