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Old 02-17-2010, 06:58 AM   #11
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I agree with swaping the mounts front and rear it may also be nessary to shim the mount or rings.

I have this 1894 Marlin that gave me such fits trying to get it scoped I gave up on it.
I've a Savage that is drilled out of alignment I had to build special mounts and "bend" the rings to get it on paper.
I have 2 Remington pump rifles with creepy 5.5-7lb triggers and that 1930 somthing model 14 feels like its full of sand.
Must be that Remington Savage and Marlins at 5 times the price are junk too.
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Old 02-17-2010, 07:20 PM   #12
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Must be that Remington Savage and Marlins at 5 times the price are junk too.
To each his own.

I'd never think of scoping an 1894 Marlin. Tang sight, maybe. Not a scope though. Come to think of it, I don't think I'd ever consider putting a scope on anything chambered for a handgun cartridge? Never had a desire to own a Remington pump centerfire, there are guys who hunt the brush country who apparently like them enough that they've remained in production for so long. Can't comment on Savage. Never owned one. Don't know anyone else who owns one. Lots of guys here like them.

I don't own a Hi-Point, either. Yeah, I've looked at them. My background is otherwise in 1911s and Berettas. In comparison, the Hi-Point handled like a framing hammer. I'll add that I'm not a fan of Glocks, either. The two guys I know who do own a Hi-Point bought them as a compromise. They both wanted a pistol, their wives didn't want them to spend much. Probably still better than nothing at all, but not my cup of tea.

But, to each his own.
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Old 02-17-2010, 07:42 PM   #13
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I have a Hy-Point 9mm carbine w\scope.
It is accurate out to about 50 yards. After that even the paper laughs at it. It is a whole lotta fun to shoot, why I bought it in the first place.
But it is also scary looking and get people's attention like right now.
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Old 02-20-2010, 05:49 AM   #14
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Well I don't own one either but I have never ever heard a complaint about a HiPoint except that they were ugly. And those of you knocking the AK-47 are also somewhere out in left field. Given a choice between an AK-47 or AR-15 in a firefight, I'd choose the AK every time. The AR will bind up under heavy firing because of heat build up. You have to constantly keep them 'wet'. If you don't believe me, ask some vets. A lot of them traded in there M-16s for M-14s because they kept jamming up.
And saying that they won't hit anything past 25 yds is obviously not speaking from experience. Like I said, I don't own one, but I would not hesitate to buy one. In fact I was debating on getting one a couple months ago. But all that was on hand was the 9mms and I was looking for a 40. I do have an AR though. And I do keep it clean. Stripping it down on every outing and it still jams up if I fire it too rapidly for any extended amount of time. Even to the point where I have to slam the butt on the ground to cycle the action to remove a chambered empty case. That will not happen with a HiPoint nor an AK.
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Old 02-20-2010, 11:01 AM   #15
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The 995 is what it is,fun ta thro 9mm thru but gets old with 10 rd mags.I have had no problems with mine and I didnt buy it to shoot out to 100yrds either.The Storm is on my to buy list for a good 9mm carbine.
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Old 02-20-2010, 06:28 PM   #16
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The AR will bind up under heavy firing because of heat build up. You have to constantly keep them 'wet'. If you don't believe me, ask some vets.
Let's qualify that. "If you don't believe me, ask some vets who used the M16 when it first came out".

Now, if you'd like to fast forward about 40 years into the future, I've seen and used the modern M16 in combat. Other than normal maintenance (which did not include "keeping it wet"), my rifle functioned just as it was designed to. Better yet, we routinely overwhelmed our "competitors" with aimed fire from beyond the range at which their fire was a significant threat to us. The AK was not meant as anything but a short-range, high-volume-of-fire weapon.

And, maybe that's the biggest difference? If you're a "spray and pray" shooter, then maybe the AK actually IS a better rifle than the AR15/M16? On the other hand, if you're an actual "rifleman", the choice is pretty obvious which of the two is better.

(edit) I have two ARs. In over 8,000 rounds fired, I've experienced exactly ONE malfunction. I still have the ruptured case.

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Old 02-21-2010, 04:01 AM   #17
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OK - I guess I have quite a few more years over you. I know the initial M16s were horrible. Tolerances were probably too good. You got mud in the action (which often happened) you had better strip it down or use it like a club. Rarely had the opportunity with 'targets' at much distance. If we could get our hands on an M-14 we grabbed it and swapped in the black rifle. They were more powerful, just as accurate, but a more reliable. Even my current DPMS jams occasionally from repeated rapid firing.
What would be a good improvement over the current gas tube design would be a piston design. Kits are about $300 - $400 bucks. Ruger's new model incorporates this piston design. If the US would adopt this design then IMO they would have the perfect small arms weapon.
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