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Old 07-05-2008, 07:04 PM   #1
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Hey all you number's guys,
I don't reload, so I have no idea what you guys are talking about when you start rattling off Bullets, Powders and Primers.
So, please explain how different bullets act/react when hitting/penetrating game.
Specifiiclly Hornady Vmax vs others (factory ammo only please) since that's what myrifles seem to like.
Since I have already admitted to my ignorance please restret yourself to fragmenting vs mushrooms or use for thin vs thick skinned animalsor something we lay people can understand.
Mainly something I will find on the box of bullets from amajor manufactures of premium ammunition.

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Old 07-05-2008, 08:10 PM   #2
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A V-Max bullet is a varmint bullet and specifically designed to expolde on impact with a target. For this reason they should not be used as a big game bullet.

Hornady makes very good big game bullets that are designed to mushroom. Such as the SST and interlock. These two bullets are exactly the same on the inside as far as construction goes but the SST has a plastic tip that is more aerodynamic so it bucks the wind better than the interlock which has an exposed lead tip.

The also make a bonded bullet called the accubond which also has a plastic tip. By bonding the lead core to the jacket the bullet is able to retain a higher percentage of its initial weight for deeper penetration while still mushrooming to create a large woulnd channel.
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Old 07-05-2008, 09:00 PM   #3
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The Partition (maybe a little better for the larger big game animals)and the Accubondare made by Nosler, the Interlock and the Interbond bullets are made by Hornady. All4 are great bullets for big game. Scirocco II are very good bonded bullets as wellfor big game. The Barnes Triple Shock is a highly recommended big game bullet tooso what shoots the best in your gun would be the best choice. If you look up each bullet they will tell you how much original weight each bullet will retain upon impact and ballistics and just about everything you would need to know. Again of the bullets listed above whatever shot the best would be what I would use as all of them to me perform very good on big game.
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Old 07-06-2008, 02:02 PM   #4
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First and foremost, thank you all for the insight and information.
Let me tell you what I do know (or think I know).
The grain of the bullet is the weight and thusly used for different size game (smaller for smaller, larger for larger).
I have what I feel is a "good" round for varmints.
I use the Hornady 40 gr. V-max in .204 and Hornady 75 gr. V-max in .243; both of which perform well in their respective rifles depending on the distance and wind conditions of the day.
So, my concern is for my .243 for medium size game and the 7MM rem. mag. for big game that I am planning on buying soon.

Here is where I need your help!!!!

I understand there are any number of manufactures of ammunition (i.e. " Hornady, Winchester, Remington, Federal, etc.) all of which make ammo for different calibers in many different rounds (different bullets).
Could you please help me categorize some of these terms;

Bullet types; nosler, sierra, barnes, partition, speer (please correct and/or add more names)

Bullet types: soft point, hollow point, pointed (pleases correct and/or adds more names)

Construction: bonded, scirocco bonded, accu-bond, interbond, interlock = (?) two or more different materials which make up the bullet???? (Please correct and/or add more names)


Shape; boat tail, round nose, spire point, accu-tip, ballistic tip, silver tip (please correct and/or add more names)

Marketing terms: super X, power point, power-shok, core- lokt, hot-cor, shock tipped, triple shock X, Fusion (please correct and/or add more names)

No idea: SST, moly coated, and many many more".. (please correct and/or add more names)

Hoping for +/- three categories; bullet name, construction term, purpose to make it easy for me to understand the basics.


I am a hunter not a bench shooter, so I need to find just two different rounds specific to medium size game (one for small deer and one for large deer) for my .243 and two different rounds specific to large game (one for large deer and one for elk/moose) for my new 7MM rem. mag. when I get it.

I know I have to spent the time at the range to become a better shot (practice, practice, practice) but the ultimate goal is to perfect my field shooting.

Thanks guys!!!!
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Old 07-06-2008, 02:17 PM   #5
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I won't go into specifics about all the others.

But, for your .243 some 85gr Sierra HPBT Gamekings would be great. 85gr Barnes Triple Shocks would also be great. I believe both are factory loaded.

7mm Rem Mag get some 160 gr AccuBonds and use them for everything. Also factory loaded.
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Old 07-06-2008, 03:34 PM   #6
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I've played with a 243 more than most people have even thought about. My favorite 243 load for deer is the 95 grain Combined Technology Ballistic Tip. I couldn't tell you who loads it for factory loads, I'd guess Winchester has them for factory fodder (been many many many years since I've bought a box of factory ammo, or even looked at one). I will tell you this bullet will kill deer alot farther than most people say a 243 is "adequete" for deer.

The 85gr Sierra HPBT is a load I have yet to play with, but I'd be willing to bet I will have some loaded up this fall, and will dump a deer or 2 with 'em.

For the 7mm Rem Mag (my other baby) I've had great luck with everything I've used in it. For many years I shot the Hornady 139gr SST, and it anchored deer HARD and very rarely exited big bucks. When I shoot big bucks I shoulder shoot 'em to instantly anchor 'em. I had one buck move after being shoulder shot with that load, he actually went straight up on his back legs, and straight over backwards, sticking his rack into the ground, needless to say, he was tits up. Then when Nosler came out with the 140gr AccuBond, I started shooting them. I will tell you one thing, the AccuBond is probably my favorite bullet out there these days for medium/big game. I hammered probably a dozen or more deer with the 140s, then loaded up the 160s for my dads last elk hunt, and he hammered his elk at 325 yards and anchored it on the spot with one shot, and had an exit hole about the size of a quarter.
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Old 07-11-2008, 06:15 PM   #7
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Really can't help wityh the 7mag but the 243 I would recomend the 85-95 gr bullets either poly tipped or soft pointed .At 200 yds the differance in drop betweenboat tails( the bullet has a 20-40 degree bevel on the base) and a flat base is around 2" load for load . Pick a brand you or the gun like every one has a cheap bullet (simple soft point)and a premium (scirocco,X,SSTetc).

Personally and this is just me ...... I haven't shot a premium load that shot ANY better than a cheap load . That said a friend has a savage 99 .243that shoots everything we put in it well and itdid not shoot the premium loads well nor does my old 30-06' .
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