I bought a Winchester model 70 last year in 25 WSSM. I thought that it was a hot little round, but I am very, very impressed with this little bullet. I have taken 4 hogs, an axis deer, and a Red Deer with it and nothing has went further than 10 yards. My buddys son shot the first Whitetail with it and it dropped straight down. I am shooting winchesters 115gr ballistic tip. While I was really impressed, it was the 200 + lb boar hog that I shot a few nights ago that really got me. He went about 5-10 yards and that was it. I would recomend this round to anyone and especially kids. It has little to no recoil! A 25 on STERIODS!!!!
I'm shooting 115gr Combined Technology BTs out of my 25WSSM, and I have shot 2 large deer with it so far. The first one was a doe at a lasered 429 yards, she ran close to 100 yards after being shot (thru the boiler room), just a puddle of gelled lungs. The second was a buck at 175 yards, and his lungs/heart were also a pile of gel, and he still ran a good 60 yards. This is the first centerfire round I have shot a deer that has moved more than a few feet. Still not sure if I am impressed with it or not.
The first one was a doe at a lasered 429 yards, she ran close to 100 yards after being shot (thru the boiler room), just a puddle of gelled lungs. The second was a buck at 175 yards, and his lungs/heart were also a pile of gel, and he still ran a good 60 yards.
If the heart and lungs were gel it sounds like the bullet did it's good like it was designed. I've seen deer and hogs run after being heart or lung shot that showed no signs of being hit even though there was nothing left inside. It doesn't matter how big a caliber you shoot them with they can run until they run out of adrenilene even though they are dead on their feet. Most deer I've shot have run anywhere for a few steps to about 50 yards after being lung shot. That is using anything from a .243 to a 300 WM.
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SB - Some of my buds bought the super short mags but couldn't get them to perform, in terms of accuracy/velocity, compaired to my handloaded 25-06. Glad to hear yours is workin for you though. BTW whats the velocity on that 115 bt load of yours? Brett
Winchester say around 3060 fps at the muzzle, but as we both know that can vary from gun to gun. I am happy with the accuracy and the performance so far. While I have MANY guns, this is not my favorite, but I am taking a liking to it! I am not one that jumped on the short mag band wagon, I actually bought it at our NWTF banquet for $210.oo right before winchester stopped making the 70. I bought it because of the deal, but am very suprised with how well it's doing. The furthest animal I have shot with it was about 200 yards (pig). If I was headed on a monster buck hunt, I will be carrying the 7mm STW, but the 25WSSM has done really good so far!
My understanding is that the 25 wssm is the balistic twin to the 25-06. Which, IMO,is like saying you're dating Jessica Alba's twin sister. Can't go wrong there!
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well you understand wrong, its the twin to the 257 roberts, the 06 has a 200 fps advantage over it, not taking nothing away from it, I have one and I don't know of a better whitetail load than a 115 BT at 3000 fps, unless its a 110 gr accubond at 3075 fps.
But the wssm's niche is that its short enough to function through an AR-15, other than that it has no advantage over a standard cartridge.
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well you understand wrong, its the twin to the 257 roberts, the 06 has a 200 fps advantage over it,
I don't think so. Not according to just about everything that's ever been published about it. They all say that it equals the 06, which it what it was designed to do.
Per Winchester Ammo, the ballistics of the .25 WSSM are equal to ballistics of the .25-'06 cartridgesPer Winchester Ammo, the ballistics of the .25 WSSM are equal to ballistics of the .25-'06 cartridges
Extremely potent, the 25 WSSM produces ballistics equal to the 25-06 cartridges
And, from Browning.com:
25 WSSM
85 grains
2.36"
3470 fps
-8.2
2,273
25 WSSM
115 grains
2.36"
3060 fps
-10.6
2,392
25 WSSM
120 grains
2.36"
2990 fps
-12.2
2,383
25-06 Rem.
85 grains
3.250"
3470 fps
-8.2
2,273
25-06 Rem.
115 grains
3.250"
3060 fps
-10.6
2,392
25-06 Rem.
120 grains
3.250"
2990 fps
-12.2
2,383
Looks a lot closer to the 25-06 than the 257 bob to me.
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I think in real life it is closer to the .257 Bob. They usually publish loads to make it look a lot closer then they really are. Just read the charts again, they are EXACTLY the same! Impossible!
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RE: 25 WSSM is SMOK'N!
Haven't we all learned that published factory velocity numberscan be highly suspicious? If you want to get your eyes opened, get the loads chronographed.
Welcome to the real world.
25 WSSM is SMOK'N!
