Okay, guys, I need some help from one of you who has a bit more experience than me.... After using the AR-15 A2/3 series at work for the last twenty three years, I think it's time I tried an AR for varmints. Although I shoot mostly 'chucks, I thought this might be a good choice for those times when I'm attacked by multiple coyotes, over my decoy & calls. I can get one of those Bushmaster Varmint or Varmint Special rifles, for the same money. By my eye, the one gives you a heavy bull chro/moly barrel, and the other gives you a standard but stainless bbl., and the "adjustable tactical pistol grip". Any advice? Other choices I should be looking at? My Mini-14 shoots 1 1/2" with only a trigger job, but the 1" groups fromthe box-stockA3 HBAR (belongs to the Department, so I can't bring it home) make me wonder about the possibilities. Any hands-on opinions?
Noone could give me an m M16 or a commercial variant due to my military experience, but I will give them their due... lots of yote hunters use them. The vets I know that hunt with them get pretty good groups. The 223 is one helluva varmint round.
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Alright, so call me ignorant; My experience is with Colt, Olympic, Harrington & Richardson, DPMS, etc., all while an Armorer in the 133rd Maint. Bn. of theArmy Natn'l Guard, and all M-16 A1/A2 profiles. The only ARs I know are the Colts we use at work. What is an "RRA .223 EOP", and where can I get a peek at one? Yours looks to be a flat-top, free-floated bbl, alum. tube hand guard. How long is the bbl, and what profile is it? If you were to replace it, what changes would you like to have? Any suggestions you might have?
Like hardcore I also used an AR15 for varmints at one time. I had a Rock River Arms 16" varmint upper, with a National Match lower half. It would put 5 shots into a ragged hole if you wanted it to. I never did much target shooting/load testing with it. I found that it liked 52gr Ultramax HPs and thats what I shot out of it.
I will tell you one thing, if there are multiple coyotes coming, they will not get away.
I also have the 24" EOP RRA varminter, basicly the EOP is just a fancy word for a high-rise flattop, you can use low rings and have the scope at the proper height.
Get a 1/8 twist, they shoot anything well and for LR shots the 69 gr SMK's really shine. mine shoots almost one hole groups with cheap reman sp ammo. I do want to get dtech to flute mine, he flutes under the handguard also, most don't, the thing weighs 13.5# with a 20 rnd loaded mag, and a loopy 6x18 scope.
Basicly all AR's are about the same, cause all the makers with the exception of oly buy parts from the same pool of vendors and just assemble them. RRA uses wilson barrels, J&T, uses shaw, the big difference is who's barrel ya like, if you go custom, then the get really accurate, also the oly SUM (stainless ultra match barrels are hard to beat.
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Here's a pic of a few of mine, 2 are flatops, one is a DPMS slabside (no deflector or foreward assist), and the EOP
I have the Bushmaster Stainless Varmint Special w/Leupold 6.5-20 VXIII and it is very accurate. A little heavy carrying from spot to spot but when you dial in on one, he's a goner.
Like hardcore I also used an AR15 for varmints at one time. I had a Rock River Arms 16" varmint upper, with a National Match lower half. It would put 5 shots into a ragged hole if you wanted it to. I never did much target shooting/load testing with it. I found that it liked 52gr Ultramax HPs and thats what I shot out of it.
I will tell you one thing, if there are multiple coyotes coming, they will not get away.
BTW; that pic is every time I see it Rammer. Should be on the cover of a magazine HCH[/align]
AR style Varmint/Target Rifles
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every time I see it Rammer. Should be on the cover of a magazine
