Yes the Brownings are all made in ***an as well as the Weatherby Vanguard which is made by Howa. This is the one and only reason I will not own any of these guns I am not saying they are not good guns I would rather spend my hard earned American money on American made guns. But that is just my opinion
If ***an built crap then GM would be buying Toyota right now instead of teetering on the verge of bankruptcy while Toyota is set to become the largest carmaker in the world! Browning is NOT an American company and hasn't been for many years (which also includes Winchester Repeating Arms). They are collectively owned by a holding group that is from France [:'(](basically the old FN folks) and Miroku of ***an who builds the majority of Browning arms.
Howa still builds the Vanguards for Weatherby and until 95 they built the Mark Vs as well (as far back as the late 60s) and no one has ever questioned their quality. Charles Daly, some Smith & Wesson rifles and many other decent and fine guns have come from ***an. In actuality many of the early (60s) ***anese guns were built on much newer equipment with much newer technology than their old Belgian counterparts.
From a strictly monetary/collector point of view the Belgian guns are worth more than their ***anese counterparts. But from a functionality/quality point of view the difference is wivestales. In actuality if you are looking for something like an old ***anese A5 vs a Belgian A5 you can save yourself HUNDREDS of dollars yet still have an equally functional firearm.
Mercedes has long since been overtaken by Lexus as the standard of excellence in the luxury auto market worldwide!
RA
I have owned Belgian BLR and ***anese BLRs and the *** ones were actually better shooters. I also gave up on American cars when I got sick of having to rebuild half of the electrical system on 3 year old cars. My present Toyota has not even burnt a bulb in 225,000 kms. My neighbor put 530,000 kms on a 4 cyl honda civic and then gave it to his kid who totalled it. Spend your money how you want but your missing out on quality products if you ignore the ***anese stuff.
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If ***an built crap then GM would be buying Toyota right now instead of teetering on the verge of bankruptcy while Toyota is set to become the largest carmaker in the world! Browning is NOT an American company and hasn't been for many years (which also includes Winchester Repeating Arms). They are collectively owned by a holding group that is from France [:'(](basically the old FN folks) and Miroku of ***an who builds the majority of Browning arms.
Howa still builds the Vanguards for Weatherby and until 95 they built the Mark Vs as well (as far back as the late 60s) and no one has ever questioned their quality. Charles Daly, some Smith & Wesson rifles and many other decent and fine guns have come from ***an. In actuality many of the early (60s) ***anese guns were built on much newer equipment with much newer technology than their old Belgian counterparts.
From a strictly monetary/collector point of view the Belgian guns are worth more than their ***anese counterparts. But from a functionality/quality point of view the difference is wivestales. In actuality if you are looking for something like an old ***anese A5 vs a Belgian A5 you can save yourself HUNDREDS of dollars yet still have an equally functional firearm.
Mercedes has long since been overtaken by Lexus as the standard of excellence in the luxury auto market worldwide!
RA
Good Post, RA! Buying American products just because they are American helps the manufacturer, but it hurts the consumer (i.e. YOU!). It gives American companies no incentive to build a better product or become more efficient. Competition in the market ensures that consumers will get the best products at the best prices, and companies that want to stay in business have to constantly improve in order to survive.
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NT if you asked me that question lastyear I would've argued "America first" until I turned blue. For some things I simply still WONT accept anything but American (Harley, Mercury outboards, Allison boats) but the list for other things is shrinking daily.
Case in point: I have a 2002 Avalanche Z-71 that I have had since new. It just now turned 62k and I have had some problems with it and there are alot of little things that I continually accept that I know will develope into serious problems one day. My wifes truck is an 04 Eddie Bauer Expedition (2x4) and it just turned 1 in Sept and has a few over 20k on the clock. Nothing major (yet) but the damned thing is having little things quit or mess up daily and I am about fed up with it. My insistence to buy American has just about reached it's exit ramp. I have a safe full of guns and the finest ones are from elsewhere! My best optics came from Europe.
My 4wheeler (98 Honda 3004x4 Fourtrax) was"assembled" in OH as I understand it but I still wouldn't consider it American. The damned thing is bulletproof, absolutely hasn't so much as hickuped since the day I brought it home and all my buddies have their new super fancy (and HUGE) ATCs that constantly require trips back too the shop.
My own father is the head of a multipoint dealership network that covers TX, AR and LA. They have practically every brand of automobile from both domestics and foreign. Without question their most trouble free line is Toyota/Lexus and my father is adament about his own demo being from Toy/Lex. He is even on the national advisory council for Toyota and he is amazed with philosophy he finds there vs councils he is on for other (specifically domestics) makers. It is just a different attitude and design/engineering philosophy. Most of todays "***anese" cars are actually assembled here stateside, yet there is a BIG difference between them and other makers made in some instances, the exact same area of the country! (Toy and Ford both build trucks in KY.)
I NEVER thought I would hear myself say this, but I "might" give this Avalanche another year, two at the absolute most. But when it comes time for the boneyard I more than likely will replace it with something from the Toyota fleet. I honestly have had it with Ford and GM. Hopefully their looming bankruptcies will open SOMEONES eyes in Detroit and they will get with the program. If not, then I suppose we will bail them out only to have them bought by a foreign company like we saw with Chrysler!!!
Again I REALLY hate saying that guys but that is the straight and skinny IMHO!
RA
NT if you asked me that question lastyear I would've argued "America first" until I turned blue.Hopefully their looming bankruptcies will open SOMEONES eyes in Detroit and they will get with the program. If not, then I suppose we will bail them out only to have them bought by a foreign company like we saw with Chrysler!!!
Again I REALLY hate saying that guys but that is the straight and skinny IMHO!
RA
I also agree with the above! I was Pro-American with trucks and cars all my life. In 2000 I bought a Dodge Ram pick-um-upwith 5 on the floor. I only have 65,000 miles on it and havehad multiple air-condition problems, the dash has cracked to no end, the headliner is comming down, the fan belt shreded to pieces, the battery had to be replaced after two years and other little things. This is all Inter-state driving, no off the road driving!
In2003 I bought my wife the first rice burner we ever had, a Honda Accord SE and don't regret it! Sorry I had to go this way, but I too am disappointed on the way we are going with the craftmanship of our country.
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