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Old 12-31-2006, 09:25 AM   #1
 
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ok im looking for a crossbow for my father.. he had broken his back lots of years back... an he can still shoot a compound but he complains about his back hurting after a few shots.. an im trying to get him to go hunting again an he wants to but i want him to have a crossbow.. now me an my mother is going to put up the money for it nothing cheap nothing loud.. i was thinking of a excaliber the nice ones.. but i know i have never used a crossbow befor so i dont know anything about them.. i want one with a crank on it because of his back so he dont have to pull it back.. something with the rifle scope not the nasty pistol scopes.. an somthing with a low pop when u pull the trigger any idea's im crossbow dumb when it comes to crossbows..
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Old 12-31-2006, 09:39 AM   #2
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Lemme see if I can help some. No crossbow has a "low pop" when you pull the trigger. They are noisy, it's the nature of the beast. Said noise is usually the first comment new folks have. Most xbowers quickly learn it's not much of a factor at reasonable ranges.

The crank type cocking devices are a real pain, and I would suggest he try a rope cocker 1st, as they are cheaper, faster, quiter, center the string for accuracy, and most important in his case, cut the effort by 50% due to mechanical leverage. If he's been shooting a compound, he can probably cock a 150-175 LB xbow easily w/ rope cocker.

I favor the Excals. I live in the boonies and can do my own strings, ect. All the Excals have the same nice trigger. There are lots of good xbows to be had, regardless of mfgr for the most part. Good luck, and welcome to this forum!!
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Old 12-31-2006, 09:47 AM   #3
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Excals Exocet 200 or Phoenix would be good choices with the crank. They make some noise but any deer within 25 yds. will be dead before it hears to react! Some good after deer season sales going on ebay. I have had both and i liked the Exocet as its faster and flatter traj. The Phoenix is no slouch and with 2216's it can stay with any of them. Lots of good info from the other folks will be forth coming.
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Old 12-31-2006, 11:24 AM   #4
 
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Well I have stayed away from these post for a while but will give it a try for ya. The first thing you need to come to terms with is the low "pop" or "nothing loud". That is something you will not find in any CB, FACT! Do a search on this forum for ear plugs, you find that alot of people that have been using CB's for a while recommend them when new people start talking about trying to quite their CB. My friend, it is not going to happen. A CB has alot of energy in those small limbs so that in it's self will make more sound then a normal long bow. Then you have the stock, in my opinion the stock is like a set of speakers and mic for the loud powerful limbs. If you ever find a CB that is half as quite as a regular bow, you let us know cause we would all like to know.

On your second part about the cranks, I can offer no help. I think all the CB makers offer some type of crank. Some are permanently mounted some slip on and such. A few offer a rope style cocker that have a pulley affect to greatly reduce pull weight and I think Excal has that and a few guys on here really like it. I say I can be of no help because I have never used one so my advise only comes from what I have read on here.

For a CB recommendation I can recommend my CB of choice which is Horton. You made a reference to nothing cheap, and I have realized in the last year that is a statement you need to use when buying a Horton. Horton has evolved into a huge CB maker that has been on the seen from the get go since Ohio and Arkansas first opened up the hunting world to CB hunting. Horton and Barnett were first on base to harvest the new market and in time that has proved to be a draw back. Horton has been sucked into the makem cheap WAL-MART game! I have always had a Horton, Dad gave me my first when I was sixteen I think and that bow after fourteen years is still busting knocks if you aim for the same spot. My new CB which was bought last year is the Horton supermax, another fine Horton product that will keep me happy and anyone else who lays hands on one. If you choose the Horton line you need to look for one thing in my opinion. It must have a machined aluminum barrel. The ones that they make for wal-mart and the other lower CB's they offer are a composite barrel of some sort. I think they are OK CB's but from what others say they lack in quality. But I also wonder when some only has a few bucks and make a last minute purchase from wal-mart with no knowledge is set to fail from the beginning IMO. SO in short get one of the higher end ones and you will be set, cut cost and you could be taking a risk.

Lastly I will offer support for the Excal crowd. It's re-curve design is what lures me into it's seduction as time goes on. There is three good guys on here that can offer hard facts about there products that I can say you can trust, two of them have already spoke, and the crazy Canadian will chime in soon. Robert is also good with them so maybe he too can help on this. I have never shot an Excal but them boys sure seem happy. They do not sell them and they have all killed deer with them so I think they are good sources. One thing I can add about the Excal that gets me is the independence you get with one. The re-curve design lets you do all your own work without a bow press. If you buy a wheel bow you will be at the mercy of a shop, which I deal with and dislike.

As for optics I like the Excal's custom adjustable speed scope called the V-ZONE. I have it on my Horton and love it. It has a adjustable speed ring on it that can be set to your CB's speed and then your 20, 30 and forty will be dead on. Some guys say the low light conditions are not the best with these, but I am happy with it. Sorry so long, but thats my scoop and good luck! Keep us posted!
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Old 12-31-2006, 12:44 PM   #5
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Find me one person that is unhappy with their TenPoint????????

Excal makes a great Crossbow ...........................................

Sorry you do not fell some of us can offer any good advice when it comes to crossbows and which are good ones . in that I think you are way off base..

I bit my toung on other post and am biting hard now.. Im not into offending people..


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Old 12-31-2006, 01:06 PM   #6
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This is just my opinion what I would reccomend doing is taking your father to a proshop that carries several different brands and let him look them over get his hands on them and shoot them and find out which ones he likes and then I would ask questions about what people thought about this one ot that one..
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Old 12-31-2006, 01:51 PM   #7
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lots of nice xbows on the market. i'm in love with my exocet. with the string changer you never need to go to a bow shop. hehe. i use the crank made by excaliber. they're not cheap. cost around $90. i use it most of the time due to a back injury. it attaches to the stock in seconds andcomes off just as quick. i'm quite fond of it. best advice i can give you is to go with a well known brand as it will hold resale value. (if you buy an excaliber......youi will never part with it)goodluck.
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Old 12-31-2006, 02:24 PM   #8
 
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Find me one person that is unhappy with their TenPoint????????

Excal makes a great Crossbow ...........................................

Sorry you do not fell some of us can offer any good advice when it comes to crossbows and which are good ones . in that I think you are way off base..

I bit my toung on other post and am biting hard now.. Im not into offending people..

Henry, Henry, Henry... Are you dancing with Alice again? You seem to be reading the wrong words again. I replied to this post and never said anything against your CB, I never even said that mine was the best, just said what my bow of choice was. I answered all of his questions that he asked. I made mention of Excal's since he first mentioned it also so I wanted to express my opinion about them. I also made mention to the above three, then four guys cause I know they have been using and hunting with there Excal's and felt that they can offer good advice from an Excal end user, if someone wanted Tenpoint advice I am sure your name would be mentioned. Why are you biting your tongue hard? I think I made a good post. Just don't know what could be in my post that has pushed your easy button?
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Old 12-31-2006, 02:41 PM   #9
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Possible Im reading things wrong sometimes it hard to tell what someone is meaning when reading typed text ,


this post just added to statements made in you Ill stand by the barrel reply.

maybe I read things there differently than what you ment them..

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Old 12-31-2006, 03:18 PM   #10
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LOL, I can hit the bung hole on that barrel at 30 -40 yds. all day long w/ a $349 Phoenix!!
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