This is directed at only those who have used both of these stands. I know it may have been asked before, but I need to know what you think.
What are the benefits/drawbacks you have experienced with both stands? Would you rate one quieter than the other? Is one more comfortable than the other? How have you modified either for your personal tastes? Is it easier to carry one with a pack attached than the other?
Any and all info appreciated.
Thanks, LT
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This is directed at only those who have used both of these stands. I know it may have been asked before, but I need to know what you think.
LT....Not only have I used both...I OWN both and used them this week. I'm your man....lol.
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What are the benefits/drawbacks you have experienced with both stands?
LW Benefits
Quiet setup
Packs WONDERFULLY
Fast setup
QUIET on stand
Summit Viper benefits
Quiet setup
COMFORT!
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Would you rate one quieter than the other?
LW hands down....both on setup and while on stand. The Viper I have is the aluminum version (the lighter model) and it's not the most silent stand when you twist your foot on the platform or touch it while on stand (or with a cable setting up). People who have these will know what I'm talking about when I mention stepping on the side of a platform slat. I've even got rhino liming coating on mine..and it still makes noise when you step on the side of the slats. The LWplatform is DEAD quiet.
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Is one more comfortable than the other?
Summit....HANDS DOWN.
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How have you modified either for your personal tastes?
Summit...I added the rhino lining to the platform to try to quieten it down (and make it less slippery). I added a bow holder, but I don't use it for that purpose. It holds things for my ascent.
LW...I added the LW saddle bag. I keep my tether, bow hook, pruning saw, gum-o-flage haul line and a flashlight in it...and I don't have to carry a pack, this way. Best $20 I spent this year, probably.
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Is it easier to carry one with a pack attached than the other?
I've got a pretty big fanny pack I sometimes take....and I wouldn't say it's easier to pack it on one stand over the other. The way the LW rides on your back makes it easier to carry a stand/pack combo though.
Jeff, would you think that changing the LW seat to a Summit Viper type seat would make it as comfortable as the Viper, or is there something else making the LW uncomfortable?
LT
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That would be the locationof the seat. It's too close to the tree to allow for maximum comfort.
What that means, though....is that it's BETTER to actually HUNT out of. I've found (through varying the seat adjustments) that the seat is more comfortable in the "up" position of adjustment. It's also a lot easier to get on your feet at a moment's notice.
Biggest obstacle (if you wanna call it that) I'm having with the LW is the seat getting in the way as I climb/descend. It's a PITA, really. My binos and hand muff make it a tricky ordeal. If they'd come u with a way to secure it further from the tree for ascent/descent they'd make a lot of people happy.
Only other "negative" I have with mine is.....the bungee needs to stay attached to the stand all the time. It's a (&$^#% to find sometimes (as I sometimes leave it at the base of my tree) in the dark. If they'd come up with a way to keep it attached (brainstorm....I'm gonna do just that, today) it would help.
In saying all this, though....I'd take the LW over the Summit ANY DAY. Quietness....ease of packing.....silence on stand are the reasons.
Biggest obstacle (if you wanna call it that) I'm having with the LW is the seat getting in the way as I climb/descend. It's a PITA, really. My binos and hand muff make it a tricky ordeal.
In saying all this, though....I'd take the LW over the Summit ANY DAY. Quietness....ease of packing.....silence on stand are the reasons.
I've climbed 63 out of 65 sits this year.
As much as I LOVE the LW, I have to agree with this Jeff. It's one of only two flaws in this stand. Comfort being the other. Other than that, it's the PERFECT stand!!
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I need to get in one of these stands to see what you are refferring to about the way the seat is too close to the tree. If I can find a way to make it more, or "as" comfortable as my Viper, I am thinking of pulling the trigger on one. I have a bad back and the lighter, the better. (I have a pack that I am trimming the contents down some.)
Thanks for the info.
LT
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What keeps the seat from being moved away from the tree on ascent/descent? Could this be because there is not enough room between the hunter and the seat as you climb?
LT
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"The Whitetail Deer". Call them dumb, call them curious, call them whatever you want, but one day, the biggest one you ever saw will turn you into a babbling fool.
Sounds like a comfortable, easily attachable/detachable seat may be the only answer other than a LW re-design.
LT
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LW Sit and Climb vs. Summit Viper?
. I've even got rhino liming coating on mine..and it still makes noise when you step on the side of the slats. The LWplatform is DEAD quiet.
