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Old 10-04-2008, 08:36 AM   #1
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Default Iceman and the Admiral

I'm asking out of ignorance because I've never shot a dual cam bow, but what would be the advantages of the Admiral over the Iceman and vice versa. The specs are relatively close and the only glaring difference to me is the cams. So would the draw cycles be apples and oranges, is that why you would pick one over the other? Personal preference?

I wish my local Bowtech shop had a range. I'd love to shoot some of the new models.
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Default RE: Iceman and the Admiral

I was wondering the same thing. I am not a techy and they look real similar.
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Default RE: Iceman and the Admiral

Bump.... I also wanna know as well!!

Hey JBOWERS...change the name of the thread to Iceman and Admiral SUCKS.....then see how many responses you get..Haha!!
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Hey JBOWERS...change the name of the thread to Iceman and Admiral SUCKS.....then see how many responses you get..Haha!!

I should. I'm giving it until tomorrow morning. If we don't get a response SUCKS it is!
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Default RE: Iceman and the Admiral

The draw cycle of a binary will "stack" quicker than the single cam; in other words, it'll ramp up to peak weight quicker and hold that poundage further through the draw cycle -- on average.

Single-cam fans are usually such because they favor how you "ease" into the draw cycle of such cams... they build more gradually before hitting peak weight and then falling off into the valley.

That will be the biggest difference you'll see between the two.
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Old 10-05-2008, 08:09 AM   #7
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Thanks Greg, it was about to get ugly in here! So it would be safe to say that the only significant difference between the admiral and iceman will be the draw cycle? Not having drawn one, it is tough for me to determine why the admiral would be preferable over the iceman. I was under the assumption (maybe incorrectly) that the purpose of that stiffer draw cycle was to increase the efficiency of the shot, not necessarily because it was the preferred draw cycle. I guess part of my question still stands...why would one choose the Admiral over the Iceman seeing as the performance of the Iceman is equal to the Admiral? Is it just a preference in draw cycle?
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One advantage I see of the Iceman over the Admiral is the option of being able to twist one of the yoke cables to balance the top limb for lean.
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I was under the assumption (maybe incorrectly) that the purpose of that stiffer draw cycle was to increase the efficiency of the shot, not necessarily because it was the preferred draw cycle. I guess part of my question still stands...why would one choose the Admiral over the Iceman seeing as the performance of the Iceman is equal to the Admiral? Is it just a preference in draw cycle? [/blockquote]

You're absolutely correct in assuming that the efficiency of the system was the main purpose in developing the system; NOT because Craig (Yehle) was looking to invent a new draw-cycle experience. It's only a fact of life that some people will prefer one over the other. Years ago, I was a Mathews shooter for a long time before finding a home with BowTech; it took me a few months to adjust to the binaries and how much more quickly they ramped up and their more agressive DFC (draw force curve)... but once I adjusted to the feel, I fell in love with it.

There's a bit of truth in what Western said above in being able to self-tune a bit with a yoke, but you also lose some of the inherent efficiencies of the binary system (the LACK of the cable being harnessed to the opposing limb is seen as a benefit in that system, helping to self-correct system imbalances...). Also, that's where the R&D department and the engineering crew does their job in figuring out limb-deflection rates during the testing process; each side is at a differing rate to alleviate the need for twsiting buss cables ahead of time. You'll find fans for both systems, obviously -- and that's why we build both.
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