Does this bother you?
09-09-2008, 07:39 PM
#11
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Cogan Station, PA
Posts: 2,298
RE: Does this bother you?
ORIGINAL: Rob/PA Bowyer
Apparently you know nothing about Ben. Maybe you need to get off your high horse cause your doing exactly what your accusing Ben of doing. He was there, you were not. He may have over heard the guy speak. He may have pegged him exactly and PA doesn't need this type of hunter if Ben pegged him.
ORIGINAL: RockinChair
While I agree with you about the baiting, lousy excuse to get in the woods, I stronly disagree with you about someone joining archery and being looked down upon.
Referring to them as a moron reveals that you have quite the superiority complex. My brother, who is not a moron, went out bought a bow about a month before the season last year and was effecient enough to hunt with it the first day. In fact, he made an EXCELLENT double lung shot on a fat doe on about his third hunt, I mean perfect shot.
So instead of thinking of yourself as this big bad hunter, drop the ego for a sec. and welcome someone who just wants to hunt.
ORIGINAL: Ben / PA
I stopped by Gander Mountain today to pick up some more fletching glue. There are a few more things I need, but the "Gander Jam" with Mike Waddell and some country artists is this weekend and there is supposed to be some serious sales. (Notice to all Central PA'ers)
Anyhow, back to my point/ complaint. I get up the register and I see this guy with a cart. In it is a new Bear bow, no accessories, and a ton of Deer Cane. In PA, we have to have any form of bait up and out 30 days before season. (Oct 4th) It just burns me that while I am practicing safe ethical hunting, this moron is buying a new bow, that needs acc and set up as well as shot. And then is gonna go out and chum the waters.
Does this bother other "non bait" staters?
I stopped by Gander Mountain today to pick up some more fletching glue. There are a few more things I need, but the "Gander Jam" with Mike Waddell and some country artists is this weekend and there is supposed to be some serious sales. (Notice to all Central PA'ers)
Anyhow, back to my point/ complaint. I get up the register and I see this guy with a cart. In it is a new Bear bow, no accessories, and a ton of Deer Cane. In PA, we have to have any form of bait up and out 30 days before season. (Oct 4th) It just burns me that while I am practicing safe ethical hunting, this moron is buying a new bow, that needs acc and set up as well as shot. And then is gonna go out and chum the waters.
Does this bother other "non bait" staters?
Referring to them as a moron reveals that you have quite the superiority complex. My brother, who is not a moron, went out bought a bow about a month before the season last year and was effecient enough to hunt with it the first day. In fact, he made an EXCELLENT double lung shot on a fat doe on about his third hunt, I mean perfect shot.
So instead of thinking of yourself as this big bad hunter, drop the ego for a sec. and welcome someone who just wants to hunt.
09-09-2008, 07:40 PM
#12
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Millboro, Va
Posts: 1,134
RE: Does this bother you?
ORIGINAL: Rob/PA Bowyer
Apparently you know nothing about Ben. Maybe you need to get off your high horse cause your doing exactly what your accusing Ben of doing. He was there, you were not. He may have over heard the guy speak. He may have pegged him exactly and PA doesn't need this type of hunter if Ben pegged him.
ORIGINAL: RockinChair
While I agree with you about the baiting, lousy excuse to get in the woods, I stronly disagree with you about someone joining archery and being looked down upon.
Referring to them as a moron reveals that you have quite the superiority complex. My brother, who is not a moron, went out bought a bow about a month before the season last year and was effecient enough to hunt with it the first day. In fact, he made an EXCELLENT double lung shot on a fat doe on about his third hunt, I mean perfect shot.
So instead of thinking of yourself as this big bad hunter, drop the ego for a sec. and welcome someone who just wants to hunt.
ORIGINAL: Ben / PA
I stopped by Gander Mountain today to pick up some more fletching glue. There are a few more things I need, but the "Gander Jam" with Mike Waddell and some country artists is this weekend and there is supposed to be some serious sales. (Notice to all Central PA'ers)
Anyhow, back to my point/ complaint. I get up the register and I see this guy with a cart. In it is a new Bear bow, no accessories, and a ton of Deer Cane. In PA, we have to have any form of bait up and out 30 days before season. (Oct 4th) It just burns me that while I am practicing safe ethical hunting, this moron is buying a new bow, that needs acc and set up as well as shot. And then is gonna go out and chum the waters.
Does this bother other "non bait" staters?
I stopped by Gander Mountain today to pick up some more fletching glue. There are a few more things I need, but the "Gander Jam" with Mike Waddell and some country artists is this weekend and there is supposed to be some serious sales. (Notice to all Central PA'ers)
Anyhow, back to my point/ complaint. I get up the register and I see this guy with a cart. In it is a new Bear bow, no accessories, and a ton of Deer Cane. In PA, we have to have any form of bait up and out 30 days before season. (Oct 4th) It just burns me that while I am practicing safe ethical hunting, this moron is buying a new bow, that needs acc and set up as well as shot. And then is gonna go out and chum the waters.
Does this bother other "non bait" staters?
Referring to them as a moron reveals that you have quite the superiority complex. My brother, who is not a moron, went out bought a bow about a month before the season last year and was effecient enough to hunt with it the first day. In fact, he made an EXCELLENT double lung shot on a fat doe on about his third hunt, I mean perfect shot.
So instead of thinking of yourself as this big bad hunter, drop the ego for a sec. and welcome someone who just wants to hunt.
But it's just the same vibe I get from hunters who shun crossbow hunters. Many bowhunters think that it is their sport and anyone who does not follow their lead is looked down upon, I have expereinced this first hand a number of times on this site and in thie forum. I guess that's why it hit me so tough. But I don't agree with a lot of hunter's practices but never do I look down upon them. I gave a speech in speech class today saying the exact same thing. When it comes down to it we are all hunters, regardless of whether or not we bait, bowhunt, gunhunt or throw spears.
09-09-2008, 07:42 PM
#13
Nontypical Buck
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Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Hughesville, PA
Posts: 2,590
RE: Does this bother you?
ORIGINAL: rybohunter
Ben
Living in PA you have to learn to let things roll off your back cause WAY too many illegal actions go on & it would drive a perosn insane. I keep my head forward and just go do my thing.
Ben
Living in PA you have to learn to let things roll off your back cause WAY too many illegal actions go on & it would drive a perosn insane. I keep my head forward and just go do my thing.
Rockin Chair, as i sit here, I have a bow on my lap. It is for a friend, who has been using my poor hand me down. I found him a great 05 Parker at a real good price. He won't shoot it until the 24th. Will he be ready? Yes, if he is not, I won't let him hunt with it. The season starts the 4th. I am well aware that one can become efficient in a hurry. I assure you, the hunter/baiter to be was not giving off the impression that he was gonna put 500+ arrows through that thing in the next 3 weeks.
You are right, I should not have spoke down to him, I should have asked him if he had a range or wanted help setting it up. Thanks for the reality check.
09-09-2008, 07:45 PM
#14
Nontypical Buck
Thread Starter
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Hughesville, PA
Posts: 2,590
RE: Does this bother you?
When it comes down to it we are all hunters, regardless of whether or not we bait, bowhunt, gunhunt or throw spears.
As far as crossbows...you won't catch me banging on them. With my shoulders, I very well my be using one someday to stay in this game that I love. And that is why I got upset tonight, I love this game and hate to see it tainted.
09-09-2008, 07:45 PM
#15
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: charlottesville, virginia
Posts: 1,732
RE: Does this bother you?
sounds to me like Ben should have said something to the fellow himself rather than get on here and lambast him behind his back
p.s. is there any possibility that this guy is a world class archer who just wants a little bow on the side to do some hunting with? Ya never know, this man may be hitting pennies at 100 yards and has a plethora of accessories laying at home waiting to be used[&:]
p.s. is there any possibility that this guy is a world class archer who just wants a little bow on the side to do some hunting with? Ya never know, this man may be hitting pennies at 100 yards and has a plethora of accessories laying at home waiting to be used[&:]
09-09-2008, 07:49 PM
#16
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Millboro, Va
Posts: 1,134
RE: Does this bother you?
ORIGINAL: Ben / PA
I try to rybo....I know what you mean. Tonight it just bothered me.
Rockin Chair, as i sit here, I have a bow on my lap. It is for a friend, who has been using my poor hand me down. I found him a great 05 Parker at a real good price. He won't shoot it until the 24th. Will he be ready? Yes, if he is not, I won't let him hunt with it. The season starts the 4th. I am well aware that one can become efficient in a hurry. I assure you, the hunter/baiter to be was not giving off the impression that he was gonna put 500+ arrows through that thing in the next 3 weeks.
You are right, I should not have spoke down to him, I should have asked him if he had a range or wanted help setting it up. Thanks for the reality check.
ORIGINAL: rybohunter
Ben
Living in PA you have to learn to let things roll off your back cause WAY too many illegal actions go on & it would drive a perosn insane. I keep my head forward and just go do my thing.
Ben
Living in PA you have to learn to let things roll off your back cause WAY too many illegal actions go on & it would drive a perosn insane. I keep my head forward and just go do my thing.
Rockin Chair, as i sit here, I have a bow on my lap. It is for a friend, who has been using my poor hand me down. I found him a great 05 Parker at a real good price. He won't shoot it until the 24th. Will he be ready? Yes, if he is not, I won't let him hunt with it. The season starts the 4th. I am well aware that one can become efficient in a hurry. I assure you, the hunter/baiter to be was not giving off the impression that he was gonna put 500+ arrows through that thing in the next 3 weeks.
You are right, I should not have spoke down to him, I should have asked him if he had a range or wanted help setting it up. Thanks for the reality check.
09-09-2008, 07:49 PM
#17
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Roanoke, Va
Posts: 3,562
RE: Does this bother you?
Ben--I see where you are coming from but I really don't care about that stuff. For all we know the guy is a world class shooter and is using the cane in his backyard to take pictures.
What kills me is that baiting is illegal in VA from Sept 1st-well through the end of season but every damn store around sells "deer" corn, salt blocks, deer cane, etc throughout the entire season.
Have some of you guys been to a store (Wal-mart, Sportsman's, Gander, etc) the night before season opener. It really is a sad sight.
09-09-2008, 07:54 PM
#18
Nontypical Buck
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Location: Hughesville, PA
Posts: 2,590
RE: Does this bother you?
ORIGINAL: wahoohunter
sounds to me like Ben should have said something to the fellow himself rather than get on here and lambast him behind his back
p.s. is there any possibility that this guy is a world class archer who just wants a little bow on the side to do some hunting with? Ya never know, this man may be hitting pennies at 100 yards and has a plethora of accessories laying at home waiting to be used[&:]
sounds to me like Ben should have said something to the fellow himself rather than get on here and lambast him behind his back
p.s. is there any possibility that this guy is a world class archer who just wants a little bow on the side to do some hunting with? Ya never know, this man may be hitting pennies at 100 yards and has a plethora of accessories laying at home waiting to be used[&:]
I was more upset by the bait than by the bow. It drives me nuts, as someone who supplements the deer herd with minerals all year and has to drive all over to find such things outside of hunting season. A month before hunting season, when by law all such substances in PA are required to be out of the woods, you can't walk through walmart, gander, Dick's Sporting Goods, etc without falling over it. You can say well, they are national companies, but they pay enough attention to know that there are still tons of people buyingand using the stuff even though its against the law.
09-09-2008, 07:54 PM
#19
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Castile N.Y.
Posts: 2,090
RE: Does this bother you?
If that guy had to steep to those levels and just prove that he really is not capable of killing a deer on legal terms, then that just shows what kind of person he is. Take pride in knowing your better than him.
And yes, that stuff bugs the hell out of me.
And yes, that stuff bugs the hell out of me.
09-09-2008, 08:02 PM
#20
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Phoenixville, PA USA
Posts: 5,541
RE: Does this bother you?
ORIGINAL: Ben / PA
I think that I would take that bet wahoo. I guess I should have just kept my fat fingers shut!! I was more upset by the bait than by the bow. It drives me nuts, as someone who supplements the deer herd with minerals all year and has to drive all over to find such things outside of hunting season. A month before hunting season, when by law all such substances in PA are required to be out of the woods, you can't walk through walmart, gander, Dick's Sporting Goods, etc without falling over it. You can say well, they are national companies, but they pay enough attention to know that there are still tons of people buyingand using the stuff even though its against the law.
ORIGINAL: wahoohunter
sounds to me like Ben should have said something to the fellow himself rather than get on here and lambast him behind his back
p.s. is there any possibility that this guy is a world class archer who just wants a little bow on the side to do some hunting with? Ya never know, this man may be hitting pennies at 100 yards and has a plethora of accessories laying at home waiting to be used[&:]
sounds to me like Ben should have said something to the fellow himself rather than get on here and lambast him behind his back
p.s. is there any possibility that this guy is a world class archer who just wants a little bow on the side to do some hunting with? Ya never know, this man may be hitting pennies at 100 yards and has a plethora of accessories laying at home waiting to be used[&:]
I was more upset by the bait than by the bow. It drives me nuts, as someone who supplements the deer herd with minerals all year and has to drive all over to find such things outside of hunting season. A month before hunting season, when by law all such substances in PA are required to be out of the woods, you can't walk through walmart, gander, Dick's Sporting Goods, etc without falling over it. You can say well, they are national companies, but they pay enough attention to know that there are still tons of people buyingand using the stuff even though its against the law.
I know exactly what you mean. I remember when Crimson Talons came out and they were illegal in PA, yet Cabelas in Hamburg which is pretty much in the center of the state was selling them. If they are illegal for 100 miles in any direction why carry them?[&:]