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Old 04-23-2008, 04:24 PM   #1
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Default Update on LH switch...first draw drills.

Well finally got my LH 101st all setup. (Remember my drama over switching from RH to LH[&:]?) Process took longer than I wanted because I wanted to do everything myself, so I had to order some basic shop tools, new draw mods, d-loop material, nockset thread, etc. Finally got everything setup (except the peep...still waiting on my press), and so I went out today to do some drawing drills (as per Matt's instructions). I stood about 5 yards from the target and simply worked on drawing back, holding, anchor, etc. I have not sights or peep installed right now to prevent me from wanting to aim, as the intention is to build muscle memory. I have to say after drawing back about 50 times, and letting down I feel pretty good. I don't know if it's the switch to my bow arm being my strong arm now, the new 28.5" DL (I was always shooting a little long), the more solid back wall, or a combination of the above, but I felt I was able to hold steadier, and with more comfort. After a while my right trap started getting a bit sore, so I called it a day. I'm still getting used to the draw cycle of the binary as I was used to my single cam CR334, but it's getting there. Overall I think this switch will be a fun switch, and I'm anxious to see how I progress.

I was really trying to eliminate that sudden "umph" jerk motion of the cams rolling into the valley, and I think I'm getting it slowly but surely. I still have to tweak some things with the limb driver, but all in all I'm anxious to see how I start shooting with this, but in time.

Any of the Matts, Tfox, Arthur, Len, Aussie, etc if you read this, how much time would you spend doing draw cycles before moving to blank bale drills?
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So you are just drawing and letting down? You have more discipline than I do my friend.

Even if I wasn't aiming, it still nice to get a feel for the bow and how it feels when you have a nice release.
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Hey Matt,
Aren't you and Ben switching together???? Maybe I'm wrong, I was just wondering where he was in his switch, I bought his commander (sweet stick and string). Either way good luck with the switch bro....
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Old 04-23-2008, 06:02 PM   #4
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So you are just drawing and letting down? You have more discipline than I do my friend.

Even if I wasn't aiming, it still nice to get a feel for the bow and how it feels when you have a nice release.
Yep, that was Matt's advice, and I would like to try it. Sure makes sense since I'm switching up the muscle groups. I'll admit though, I did sneak of one or two shots to see how she fired...I couldn't resist

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Aren't you and Ben switching together???? Maybe I'm wrong, I was just wondering where he was in his switch, I bought his commander (sweet stick and string). Either way good luck with the switch bro....
Yep we're doing this at the same time...same bows as well. He's currently in the honeymoon stage of his switch[8D] He hasn't gotten back yet to pick up his bow. I'm not sure if he's going to approach it the same way I am or just dive right in. As for good luck, thanks...I'll probably need it.
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So you are just drawing and letting down? You have more discipline than I do my friend.

Even if I wasn't aiming, it still nice to get a feel for the bow and how it feels when you have a nice release.





I forgot about the honeymoon.....Well, I love the commander that bow is very impressive....Keep us posted on how your doing

Yep, that was Matt's advice, and I would like to try it. Sure makes sense since I'm switching up the muscle groups. I'll admit though, I did sneak of one or two shots to see how she fired...I couldn't resist

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Aren't you and Ben switching together???? Maybe I'm wrong, I was just wondering where he was in his switch, I bought his commander (sweet stick and string). Either way good luck with the switch bro....
Yep we're doing this at the same time...same bows as well. He's currently in the honeymoon stage of his switch[8D] He hasn't gotten back yet to pick up his bow. I'm not sure if he's going to approach it the same way I am or just dive right in. As for good luck, thanks...I'll probably need it.
I forgot about the honeymoon, I guess time flies when your having fun...I love the commander and am very impressed with it...Keep us posted on your progress....
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Old 04-23-2008, 06:57 PM   #6
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Glad to here your happy Matt. Next time im up at Robs hopefully your around so we can swap bows I would like to shoot the 101st again left handed. You can shoot the General.
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How bad do you want it? [8D]

A coach will tell you 1000 repetitions is what it will take to burn into muscle memory. Very few people want to accomplish anything this bad, but that is what it will really take to truly burn it in.

I would start a journal and briefly describe what your working on after each training session, things you tweaked, things you liked, and most importantly end every journal session with a positive note.
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I know Rick James is right about the thousand reps thing but, honestly, I wouldn't want to be letting down a bow that much. It's a shoulder killer even when you're drawing on your normal side and I'm sure it's even worse for a brand new switchover, with the muscles not yet to their full development. Just out of concern that you could injure yourself doing all those let-downs, I'd say when you start feeling comfortable with the leftie thing you're good to move on to blank bale.

Just make sure you maintain good control of the entire draw cycle and shot routine at all times.
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How bad do you want it? [8D]

A coach will tell you 1000 repetitions is what it will take to burn into muscle memory. Very few people want to accomplish anything this bad, but that is what it will really take to truly burn it in.

I would start a journal and briefly describe what your working on after each training session, things you tweaked, things you liked, and most importantly end every journal session with a positive note.
Good idea on the journal, I may just do that. Well, it's so much that I'm trying to go pro or anything, but I want to make the transition correctly as possible, and I don't want to just rush into it. 1000reps is a ton, but hey, what the heck, it's only 50 reps for 20 days I do enjoy holding the bow with my strong arm more already, and it's really not that awkward suprisingly...maybe I'm a closet ambidexterous person (I could hit somewhat decently left handed when I played baseball as well, so maybe).[8D]

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I know Rick James is right about the thousand reps thing but, honestly, I wouldn't want to be letting down a bow that much. It's a shoulder killer even when you're drawing on your normal side and I'm sure it's even worse for a brand new switchover, with the muscles not yet to their full development. Just out of concern that you could injure yourself doing all those let-downs, I'd say when you start feeling comfortable with the leftie thing you're good to move on to blank bale.

Just make sure you maintain good control of the entire draw cycle and shot routine at all times.
Good points Arthur. I noticed that I was getting somewhat tired much quicker with drawing back and letting down than I do simply shooting, and I attribute it to two things:

1. I was drawing and letting down with less rest between reps than I do when shooting normally.

2. The quick rollover snap really jerks my shoulder when letting down.

We'll soon find out it I have the self control to keep at this
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I know Rick James is right about the thousand reps thing but, honestly, I wouldn't want to be letting down a bow that much. It's a shoulder killer even when you're drawing on your normal side and I'm sure it's even worse for a brand new switchover, with the muscles not yet to their full development. Just out of concern that you could injure yourself doing all those let-downs, I'd say when you start feeling comfortable with the leftie thing you're good to move on to blank bale.

Just make sure you maintain good control of the entire draw cycle and shot routine at all times.
If your doing this, and get to the point where you are fatiguing, then it's time to stop. This will help to build those muscles as well as burn the shot setup into muscle memory. Only do as many reps in a night as you can do without struggling. It's waaaaaaaay more important to use proper form and setup and maybe do a few less in a night, than it is to rush through a certain number of reps.

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If you want to kill two birds with one stone, once you get the bow back, practice aiming and just floating around in the 10 ring on a vegas target or other spot during these shot setup drills. Just focus on drawing and setting up perfectly every time, and once back there just focus on aiming and "softly" aiming at that spot letting the pin do it's thing but with you focusing on the middle of the spot you want to hit. Once you hit the point where you can't float in a relaxed state, let down, let your muscles recover, and start over. Doing this while perfecting your shot setup will improve your hold and get you mentally comfortable with staying in the spot you want to hit.

If you really want to make sure you stay on track, tighten down the springs in that new release of yours so that it won't fire. [8D] This will help to keep you on track.

If you can manage to stay focused on this, and then after your 1000 reps mix in some blank bale training, it should take you 4-6 weeks total before your ready to really cut the leash and see what you can do. If you can stay disciplined for that long, I can promise you will shoot better lefty than you were shooting righty.

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