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Old 03-20-2008, 06:03 AM   #1
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Default Even if you did......

Even if you were able to hunt someone elses (HNIer) spot, could you really expect the same results? Why or why not!
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Old 03-20-2008, 06:09 AM   #2
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Yes. I think so.

You take two guys hunting similarly (both staying clean....playing the wind......hutning similarly sized parcels).....

What would lead someone to believe that they wouldn't have similar results?

This question could easily be applied to the woods I hunt. I kill a lot of deer.....for several reasons.....but one being (and this is the most important).....there are a lotof deer, here. I don't kid myself into thinking otherwise.

So.....if most anyone from the boards here came to my woods......could they do what I do every year?

Most certainly. It isn't rocket science.

I used the example of Matt/PA and Rob/PA a few months back. Rob has never harvested a 100" deer. Matt took (well...what we THOUGHT was a P&Y) his first GREAT (congrats) buck this past fall. These two guys have a TREMENDOUS amount of whitetail knowledge.....but they;'re bound to the places they have access to.

Jay Gregory said a few weeks ago......"A hunter is only as good as the ground he hunts"

To think otherwise......is kind of like saying....."I kill more/bigger deer.....not because they're more plentiful.....or because I have better odds.......no....it's because I'm a better hunter than you".

Isn't it???
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Old 03-20-2008, 06:10 AM   #3
 
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No. I think knowing the woods and the deer makes all the difference in the world. I could goto your place Greg and my not even see a deer if I don't know the terrain and the how the herd moves on that terrain. Location is important, albeit, but you still need to know the deer and their activities. For example, I have been hunting the same woods for 20 yrs, and i have killed several nice bucks, but I don't kill one every year, even though I know these woods in the dark, deer will and do change their patterns according to how I hunt them, thay know when they are being invaded.
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Old 03-20-2008, 06:13 AM   #4
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Similar, no... better
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Old 03-20-2008, 06:17 AM   #5
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No. Like GMMAT said, if someone (average ability) moved to a patch of woods like his(no offense), it would be expected that they kill something because there is a high population of deer. But if you moved someone to the opposite end of the spectrum like a sweet piece of PA gamelands, i wouldnt expect them to kill anything or atleast get the same results as someone who knows the woods and has hunted it for years.
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Old 03-20-2008, 06:17 AM   #6
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Default RE: Even if you did......

No way..everyones different. Be it scent control, shot selection..etc etc

Don't discount that everyone sees deer differently too. I think I'm as much, or more, perceptive to seeing deer than most. (don't mean to sound braggish) But I see deer if they are around. Be it an ear flicker or just something "out of sorts". If they are there I can usually see'em. This gives the hunter an advantage early in the process.

There is no reason to belive you could be as succesful based on someone elses results..and in the same breathe there is no reason you couldn't even be, more successful..theres just too many unknowns.


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Old 03-20-2008, 06:18 AM   #7
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Default RE: Even if you did......

Good question GregH
I'm sure that if any other members were fortunate enough to hunt on another members spot , he / she would probably expect some type of sucess.
It really depends on what that hunter does before and during the hunt and of course the help if any that the other member does for him or her.
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Old 03-20-2008, 06:20 AM   #8
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It depends on the hunter .......
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Old 03-20-2008, 06:22 AM   #9
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IDK I brough ol Mossy out and he shot a bigger buck than anyone ever in our camp. 1 hour into the first day. Bett to be lucky than good.
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Old 03-20-2008, 06:24 AM   #10
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Default RE: Even if you did......

What's the premise? That they are "successful" right off the bat? Give them a season? Two?

Given the same learning curve as the original hunter is how I'm basing my point. Do I think someone could come to my woodsand do what I do(in sheer numbers) in the first season?

Nope.

The next? ABSOLUTELY. TWO years in.....no telling what they could do.

Could they be successful, though....in that first season? Sure. we have deer numbers, here......like some have deer numbers in BIG deer. It's a numbers game.

The premise of my question was.....(original)....if you HAD to shoot a P&Y deer .......where would you think your best chance of doing that was. I'd go to the placeI thought had the most of them.

fastbuck.....you can't have it both ways IMO.
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