For you guys who center your pin housing in your peep

[GMMAT]

I have a question.....

I have two Viper sights on two different bows....with different brace heights. On the short brace height bow.....I get a great "halo" around the pin housing when I'm at full draw. Perfect.

On the greater brace height bow.....I get a BIG halo around the pin housing.

Questions:

1. Is what I'm experiencing truly due to the difference in brace height? That's all I can figure.

2. Do I need alarger diameterpin housing ring?

3. Do I go to a smaller peep?

4. Do I learn to deal with the situation as it is?

Thanks.

[brucelanthier]

Is the ATA different also ( I assume it is). That would change the anglethat you are looking through the peep and distance from your eye and that may affect things.

I would try a smaller peep and see if you like it. You don't really need to press your bow to change the peep and you could wait to see if you like it before tying it in.

EDIT: You could also experiment with moving your sight in closer to the riser and see if that gives you the halo your looking for.

[Bols]

String angle could be a factor....you may need to switch to a37 degree peep....instead of the45 degree you are probably using on both bows.

Bruce beat me to it....about a minute shy.

Good advice though Bruce.....it is what I was thinking as well.

EDIT:

JEFF,I guess I should have asked....which bow are you speaking of with the large "halo"? If it is yourConstitution, you might need to changeto a 37 degree peep. If it is your 82nd, thenyou probably have thecorrectpeep (45 degree) for that ATA length. Then, it could be a difference inpin housing size or peep size? Are they the same size peep and same size pin housing on your sight?

[GMMAT]

ATA is 5" greater, also.

And that's the first time I EVER heard of peep sights having differing angles.

Interesting.....

[RuttNutt]

Try a S.A.P Super peep kit in your target bow. It comes with all the apertures so you can pick what works best for your application.

[jmbuckhunter]

Jeff, the verifier peep comes in different angles for longer and short bows.

You could also slide your sight in closer to your bow. That should make it take up more of your peep.

[Rob/PA Bowyer]

ORIGINAL: jmbuckhunter

Jeff, the verifier peep comes in different angles for longer and short bows.

You could also slide your sight in closer to your bow. That should make it take up more of your peep.

Yup, and Jeff, are the housing the same diameter, seemed to me unless I'm seeing it differently, your silver Viper looked like it was smaller. ?

[GMMAT]

That's the first thing I thought of Rob (Different size housings). I checked as soon as I got home. They are the same.

I shoot a SAP now with a verifier. I'll try the different angle peep if you guys think that's help. Yes....it's for the constitution.

You could also slide your sight in closer to your bow. That should make it take up more of your peep.

I tried this also, John. The brace height is only about 2" difference between the two bows. So....I thought I'd slide the sight in 2" to offset this.

You'd think that would do it.....but it didn't. PLUS....I don't want to lose the advantage of the distance between the peep and the pins (much like the difference between sighting in a pistol and sighting in a rifle). It has to be an advantage for them to be as far apart as possible (I guess????).

Thanks for the help, guys.

[jmbuckhunter]

Jeff, I don't think the angle is gonna make the sight fill up the peep any more. It will just help keep the peep hole round. When you have the right angle you look straight thru it, instead of looking thru it tilted over.

It's more of an issue with the distance between your peep and sight, or possibly how close each peep is to your eye.. Have some measure those when you are at full draw for both bows. That should tell you something.

[Matt / PA]

It's more of an issue with the distance between your peep and sight, or possibly how close each peep is to your eye.. Have some measure those when you are at full draw for both bows. That should tell you something.

That's exactly what it is........the shorter the ATA the farther the peep is from your eye to stay on the same sight plane. So when you moved to your longer ATA bow the same sized peep is now closer to your eye making the hole appear larger. Even a very small difference in distance to our eye is noticible when you are trying to fit to your sight aperture.
Take a peep sight and simply hold it in your hand.......look how different the apparent hole size is as you move ot closer or further from your eye.

Brace height has nothing to do with apparent peep size.......your drawing the same draw length regardless of brace height, the difference is in the position of the peep on your string and it's finished distance from your eye at full draw.
The shallow angle of the longer ATA just gets it closer.

Take that thinking and exaggerate it.........picture a bow with a 100" ATA. The string would come down across your eye at an almost vertical position putting the peep VERY close to your eye. Now take the same sized peep and throw it in a bow with a 28" ATA length. That sharp angle will put the peep extremely far away from your eye comparatively making the hole seem much much smaller.