Situation Ethics????........2 Part Question .....**UPDATED WITH twils real life situation

[YooperMike]

ORIGINAL: PreacherTony

These are some quotes from another thread ......

I wonder how you guys would answer the poll ......

This one is mine from the other thread. For me, I'm not hanging my stands where I can shoot over the fence. If it is common knowledge that the other owener isnot friendly to hunters, why even put yourself in a situation where there is an extremely high probablility of having to cross that fence. If you shoot a deer on the middle of your property and it runs 300 yards to the fence, crosses it, and dies within sight, then get the CO, ask him what to do. The original question on this post says the owner is good friends with the CO, so perhaps you can leverage the friendship in getting your deer. Otherwise, stay on your own damn side of the fence.

[NEW61375]

We have three different bordering landowners around our farm. We all have stands near property lines. I personally would not shoot across the lines but I am not 100% sure the other landowners wouldn't. That being said i would retrieve any deer I shot on our landoff of their land. One landowner and us havea great relationship, kind of like a 100 yard neutral buffer That applies to shooting and we can retrieve deep onto his land(we still try to get hold of him). The other private landowner we don't know at all, we have had a couple of issues with stands being placed on our side of the line which at first was understandable because he was new to the area but after he heavily posted his land I expected him to know where the hell he was, it seems likehe does but we still are wary on that side.I would not carry a weapon on his land and if I had to rerieve on him I would attempt to contact him and I would mark the area I shot the deer and the entire bloodtrail leading to his land just to be safe,we are going to try and meet him this turkey season or summer to kind of developa more neighborly relationship if possible. Thethird owner is atimbercompany leased by a huntclub, no weapons carried onland by either partybut we have a gentlemans agreement about retrieval but with any club where there are lots of guys hunting some follow the rules and some don't, so we keep our eyes on them.

Knowing the surrounding landowners and exact property lines is vital and we generally try to approach everything as gentleman and fellow sportsmen initially. Then we go from there.

[PreacherTony]

ORIGINAL: YooperMike

This one is mine from the other thread. For me, I'm not hanging my stands where I can shoot over the fence. If it is common knowledge that the other owener isnot friendly to hunters, why even put yourself in a situation where there is an extremely high probablility of having to cross that fence. If you shoot a deer on the middle of your property and it runs 300 yards to the fence, crosses it, and dies within sight, then get the CO, ask him what to do. The original question on this post says the owner is good friends with the CO, so perhaps you can leverage the friendship in getting your deer. Otherwise, stay on your own damn side of the fence.

Mike, let's say you already know that the law states you MUST have the landowners permission and he won't give it ... the deer you legally shot ran on his property and died 10 yards in ..... do you get it?

[bawanajim]

ORIGINAL: PreacherTony

Mike, let's say you already know that the law states you MUST have the landowners permission and he won't give it ... the deer you legally shot ran on his property and died 10 yards in ..... do you get it?

Just what is it that are you looking for?

I'm thinking its the same answer you give when you are asked when exactly was it that you quit beating your wife?

[PreacherTony]

ORIGINAL: bawanajim

Just what is it that are you looking for?

I'm thinking its the same answer you give when you are asked when exactly was it that you quit beating your wife?

I just want to know if he would be willing to tresspass on someone else's land to get a deer he shot on his ..... knowing 100% that legally he couldn't ......

As far as beating my wife .... I never have hit a woman .... any man that has, is no man at all .... sorry Jim ... that's the way it is .... as long as you've atopped, it'll be ok [:-]

[ron3775]

I would get a long rope and attempt to lasso the antlers from the property line and pull the deer to me. If that doesn't work, then I would find a game warden and tell him the problem. With his company, you should be able to recover the game. If he turns you down due to it being a friend of his, well a complaint will be filed and he could possibly lose his job.

[bawanajim]

ORIGINAL: PreacherTony

I just want to know if he would be willing to tresspass on someone else's land to get a deer he shot on his ..... knowing 100% that legally he couldn't ......

As far as beating my wife .... I never have hit a woman .... any man that has, is no man at all .... sorry Jim ... that's the way it is .... as long as you've atopped, it'll be ok [:-]

So like those before you, you too refuse to answer the question.

[PreacherTony]

ORIGINAL: bawanajim

So like those before you, you too refuse to answer the question.

I answered your question ......

[JoeRE]

Well I am glad where I hunt for the most part (IA) has sensible rules. You can lawfully retreive your game you harvested w/o permission from another property as long as you do not carry a weapon while doing so! Leave my bow at the fence and I am set....guilt free

As for the first option I would not shoot..and I wouldnt hang my stand 30 yards from the line either. I beleive in preventing temptation as much as possible. [&:]

[YooperMike]

I thought I had answered it in mine...but perhaps not to exact specifications. I'm not getting the deer. My feet are far too big to not know who did it. When a deer dies from a broadhead, there is a lot of blood, meaning that if the landowner is out cruising his property, which it sounds like he would be if he was that adamant about letting no one on it, he is going to see exactly what happened. His CO buddy I'm sure woul dbe more than willing to come investigate and hand out a ticket. The risk is FAR too big for the reward IMO. My dad shot across a fence, lost his license for 3 years because of it. It was the same scenario, uncooperative landowner found the blood marks and disturbed leaves and things, called the CO, came to the house, arrested my dad. Any more clarification needed preach?