Don, I never gave them much merit, believeing if I kept the wind as the #1 thing, it wasn't an issue. Thank you though, for the material posted. .... very interesting!
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Yes, you CAN'T fool a deers' nose. I have had many deer downwind that have not winded me, but I believe it was more of the way the thermals took my scent over them than anything.
Tony, it is always nice to read facts instead of heresay, beliefs, and opinions. It is tough to argue science. I publically denounce carbon clothing and would never allow them as a sponsor for my hunting business; Not the product and technology they offer now any way.
Tony, it is always nice to read facts instead of heresay, beliefs, and opinions. It is tough to argue science.
Some people are allergic to the truth............they prefer isolated cases and/or stories of guys saying they see more deer or going undetected with deer downwind.
Seriously...........is there anyone out there that has spent a respectable amount of time deer hunting that has NOT gone undetected by deer downwind of them??
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RE: Very Interesting Read
It happens to me often!! Especially hunting 18 feet in a tree. The thermals are what I believe to be the cause ...
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A Trophy is highly personal and is often determined by the circumstances, events, and the individual feelings of accomplishment and not by a score card. - Greg "Doc" Caldwell
for out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks!
I too worked for 30 years where carbon is used, in the dry cleaning industry. We use it in filtration. I've said the same thing this guy has. I know how well carbon holds contaminates, in dry cleaning it's dyes and fatty acids. They even hold gallons of dry cleaning fluid after drained in heated cabinets for days. At nearly $5 a gallon when I left dry cleaning, we tried to recover every gallon we could. We ran filters through a pressurized steam stripping operation that would reduce the amount of fluid retained in each standard cartridge to a 1/2 gallon. Beyond that it was cost ineffective to continue. Fatty acids(like sweat)and other non volitile contaminates can not be removed so each contamination degrades the ability of carbon to be useful. Hurray for this guy for having the guts to take it to the carbon crazy manufacturers. I'm sick of all the smoke and mirrors of todays clothing. They put it in everything now. It's almost impossible to buy a pair of boots or camo without it. All it does is jack the prices up on us with little or no value. After a year of the most careful use..two at most... it's shot. Why should we have to pay for something we don't want that doesn't work. WE don't and shouldn't.
I too worked for 30 years where carbon is used, in the dry cleaning industry. We use it in filtration. I've said the same thing this guy has. I know how well carbon holds contaminates, in dry cleaning it's dyes and fatty acids. They even hold gallons of dry cleaning fluid after drained in heated cabinets for days. At nearly $5 a gallon when I left dry cleaning, we tried to recover every gallon we could. We ran filters through a pressurized steam stripping operation that would reduce the amount of fluid retained in each standard cartridge to a 1/2 gallon. Beyond that it was cost ineffective to continue. Fatty acids(like sweat)and other non volitile contaminates can not be removed so each contamination degrades the ability of carbon to be useful. Hurray for this guy for having the guts to take it to the carbon crazy manufacturers. I'm sick of all the smoke and mirrors of todays clothing. They put it in everything now. It's almost impossible to buy a pair of boots or camo without it. All it does is jack the prices up on us with little or no value. After a year of the most careful use..two at most... it's shot. Why should we have to pay for something we don't want that doesn't work. WE don't and shouldn't.
Try before it hits the stores it is probably saturated according to his knowledge of science and carbon. One to two years is fantasy land. One to two days , maybe. FunnyAtlas, the guys that hate to hear this and dispute it, are the guys that wasted their $$ on it. It is human nature to not want to admit you got duped.
Very Interesting Read
