Buck_Buster

Has anyone else had trouble with these braodheads opening up on impact?
I took a ten pt. last year with them (first, last and only use)they didn't even open good thing I made a good shot on him. My buddy shot a doe and had the same problem.
Has anyone else had trouble with them???

5 shot

Revolution heads can be "tricky" to put together. If not done properly they can be made not to open. If however they are done correctly they open very quick, and are reliable. After assembly, push down on the coller, it should begin to open the blades and roll back the O ring. If it doen not, you probably have the heads assembled wrong. I would suggest you email Barrie archery and let them know of your problem, they can help you get the heads assembled correctly, and if their does turn out to be something wrong with the ones you purchased, they will take care of you. All and All I found the revolutions to be a very good mecanical.

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Buckshot

Im not trying to start anything here 5-Shot, and I know you tested this and other heads on various things such as plywood, 55gal Drum and an orange, however have you shot a deer with a revolution? Buck Buster, I shot 4 nice bucks with this head and on 2 of them then didnt open, arrow blew right thru then just like a field point. After the first one I checked all the heads to make sure the blades would expand the o-ring, and still had problems. My first thought is that the problem lies with the aluminum collar that the blades rest on, I think what may happen is that on impact the back of the blade digs into the collar and stops the blades from sliding back and opening. I went back to Rockets this year and next year will most likely be shooting thunderheads or muzzys, I dont have to worry about them not opening.



Edited by - Buckshot on 12/12/2002 07:10:26

Edited by - Buckshot on 12/12/2002 10:51:27

5 shot

Buckshot, I have not shot any deer with the revolutions. I know several people that have without problems. At the same time you two are not the first I have heard of with this head not opening. I do know it is possible to put the heads together with the coller upside down. This will not allow the heads to open, and just as you say the blades dig into the coller instead of sliding over it. It's hard to tell wich way is up on the coller, that's why I always recomend puting gentle pressure on the front portion of the coller it'self and making sure the blades will open. I know when put together properly they will open in a small to medium size orange. It is posible you had some heads with a factory defect, this can happen with any broadhead from any manufacture.

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Buckshot

5-Shot, another thing I was wondering about, is it possible that on impact the the hide of the animal could slip over the blades not allowing the blades to open? And is it safe to assume that the broadheads are put together correctly staight out of the box?

CargoF16

I shot revolutions this year for the first time. The heads come in the package with rubber-bands installed just behind the metal collar to hold it in place during shipping. If you leave that rubber-band there when you install the heads on your arrows I'm not sure what would happen.
I like these tips because the cutting area isnt so monsterous like most mech-heads and due to the way they open they resist cartwheeling a little better than others. I shot a doe this year from a steep angle and it penetrated straight, no whip. I think these heads will open consistently when shot at a deer if they're assembled right. I think their major weakness is that to assemble them right is kind of difficult.


Cargo

Edited by - CargoF16 on 12/14/2002 07:53:35

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Buckshot, I feel the heads should be put together correctly right out of the package. That said, is is possible they were not. The reason I say this is that they are put together by hand, and humans can make mistakes. There is really no excuse for somthing like that happening, but stuff happens. Your theory about the hide slipping over the coller is a valid one. In fact the very first revolutions had a smooth coller, without the "ridges" they now do. The trocar style tip opens a larger hole than the actual size of the tip it'self. This is a byproduct of how it cuts, and stretches the hide. If you have some older heads with the smooth coller you may have had somthing like that happen. The new colllers where made to stop that from happening. I have shot revolutions into fress deer heads, and they opened everytime, and I agree with cargo, they do not "deflect" but rather "stick" when they hit and penetrate straight. I also agree with him that they are ticky to assemble, and make sure they are assembled correctly.

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mike bell

I shoot the Revolution also.

It is easy to put them on in the locked position! If you look at the collar closely. The o-ring groove is round, but there is another and smaller diameter groove with a little lip on it. So the blades can be on this lip when assembled on the arrow shaft. I dont know if this was disigned to be for practice mode or not but it sure does lock the blades down.

One thing I have noticed on the aluminum collar, Its very soft!
They have worn-in notches on it causing them to stick(by hand).
I have not shot it to practice with. Like some guys take and tie other mechanicals so they wont open when they practice with it.
These have not been practiced with only been in my quiver since last year when I bought them. I have no idea what caused it to bed itself into the collar, but it did. All I did was loosen the head from the arrow and rotated the collar to a new spot. When not in use I rolled the o-ring off and let them dangle freely.

I did have to find new o-rings, originals dry rotted and came off sometime after last years season.

On the deer I killed, It was a pass through and opened up perfectly. Ran farther then I would have liked. I found that when I tried to resharpen the blades, it was like picking your nose with snow gloves on<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle> Of course it might have been me<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>

Another thing I noticed was the tracks that the blade ends travel in when the head opens up. If there is any dirt or crap in it it tends to hang up. At least when done by hand. I always check them by rolling the o-ring back and makeing sure everything moves easily back and fourth and smoothly.

Altough I killed my first deer with a bow this year with this head, I may not next year. I lost a deer two weeks ago, that I should not have. Perfect broad side shot, a bit higher then the heart but still well within the lungs. Tracked a very good blood trail for over two hundred yards in the dark.

I'll never know if it was the head or me so I cant blame it totaly on it.

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Edited by - mike bell on 12/14/2002 21:25:12