Unsupported Shooting
02-10-2017, 02:24 PM
#111
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Illinois
Posts: 3,695
Ron, I have a pretty good guess as to why you were shooting low. Your grip angle as well as you rear elbow angle is different with that stock. Has it been a long/longer time since you shot with a thumbhole stock? They do make a difference in your support structure. And with your practice of late being with a non thumbhole stock, you are holding your body differently at the time of the trigger depression, making your shots pull low because your timing is goofed. That rifle may just be a tad slower on firing as well which could make you shoot low. You may not want to shoot your hunting rifles that much, but the fact is, THAT is the tool you will be out there with so it is THAT tool which you should be gaining the deepest relationship with.
Edit to add: Nice looking rifle BTW!!
Edit to add: Nice looking rifle BTW!!
02-10-2017, 05:27 PM
#114
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location:
Posts: 5,130
And what makes you so sure others can't Sheridan? Judging from your post," How many of you "think" you can do better than that (standing free hand) ??
Go a head and post your targets here !!!", you don't think many, if any, could. I don't think I could do much better anymore. But back 10 or so years ago my off hand groups at 100 matched and sometimes even exceeded Pete's target. And I know a LOT of guys that can do it as well.
Ron is doing quite a bit better than when he started this little journey of his. But there is certainly room for improvement. He is certainly doing well enough for hunting purposes. I'm just happy the man wants to IMPROVE his skills rather than sitting back on his laurels. Just not enough folks out there take the time to measure their skills and willing enough to improve on them.
Go a head and post your targets here !!!", you don't think many, if any, could. I don't think I could do much better anymore. But back 10 or so years ago my off hand groups at 100 matched and sometimes even exceeded Pete's target. And I know a LOT of guys that can do it as well.
Ron is doing quite a bit better than when he started this little journey of his. But there is certainly room for improvement. He is certainly doing well enough for hunting purposes. I'm just happy the man wants to IMPROVE his skills rather than sitting back on his laurels. Just not enough folks out there take the time to measure their skills and willing enough to improve on them.
If you can, than you can - Right ?!
02-10-2017, 05:32 PM
#115
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location:
Posts: 5,130
No challenge, just a question .......................... ?
02-10-2017, 06:38 PM
#118
Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: River Ridge, LA (Suburb of New Orleans)
Posts: 10,918
Do unsupported shooters really need more support? It seems to me supported shooters are the ones most often unsupported. As for me, I like to be supported but can handle being unsupported fairly well.
02-11-2017, 01:14 PM
#120
Typical Buck
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 866
OK, I'll throw my hat in the ring. It really wasn't as bad as I though it might be.
First I shot a couple from the bench, rested, @ 65 yards to confirm the rifle zero. That's my standard yard stick here in Jackland since it's where my bench is. On the nutz I moved on to the first standing shot I've taken seriously in a while. This is big to reference the target lay out for later. I don't use the fancy paper targets rich folk have got.
First 5 shots standing, using a loop sling, 223 AR, 3x9 scope, 75yds.
No sighter shots after 2 confirming shots from the bench.
Right away I think I've diagnosed low shots from a rifle with a confirmed zero. It's a lack of follow through. Probably most, may be not, but it's my biggest challenge I've identified right away. It's exactly like shooting a bow. Follow through = good shots. Dropping your arm on the shot = a sure low shot.
Don't laugh at my scale lines. I marked those using a tree branch. It's a 12"x12" piece of AR500 steel.
First I shot a couple from the bench, rested, @ 65 yards to confirm the rifle zero. That's my standard yard stick here in Jackland since it's where my bench is. On the nutz I moved on to the first standing shot I've taken seriously in a while. This is big to reference the target lay out for later. I don't use the fancy paper targets rich folk have got.
First 5 shots standing, using a loop sling, 223 AR, 3x9 scope, 75yds.
No sighter shots after 2 confirming shots from the bench.
Right away I think I've diagnosed low shots from a rifle with a confirmed zero. It's a lack of follow through. Probably most, may be not, but it's my biggest challenge I've identified right away. It's exactly like shooting a bow. Follow through = good shots. Dropping your arm on the shot = a sure low shot.
Don't laugh at my scale lines. I marked those using a tree branch. It's a 12"x12" piece of AR500 steel.
Last edited by Jack Ryan; 02-11-2017 at 01:21 PM.