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Old 07-26-2016, 04:56 AM
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I don't shoot completion but do have a couple of antique Trapdoor guns. I want to be careful with them and thought of loading black powder/sups in my cartridges. They are working very well and I am completely satisfied.

Now a friend asked me the other day if I had tried using Blackthorn 209 powder in my cartridges. I said I never thought of this. Has anyone out there done this? If so how did it work for you? I have an H&R 1871 rifle in .38-55 and thought this maybe a great gun to try it in for hunting.
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Old 07-26-2016, 07:02 AM
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I don't shoot completion but do have a couple of antique Trapdoor guns. I want to be careful with them and thought of loading black powder/sups in my cartridges. They are working very well and I am completely satisfied.

Now a friend asked me the other day if I had tried using Blackthorn 209 powder in my cartridges. I said I never thought of this. Has anyone out there done this? If so how did it work for you? I have an H&R 1871 rifle in .38-55 and thought this maybe a great gun to try it in for hunting.
I have two friends that are TOP competitors using BPCR and they load nothing but BP.

Suggesting: http://bpcr.net/forum/
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Old 07-26-2016, 09:01 AM
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I've been playing with some loads for a couple of my BP cartridge guns, one of them being a BP .500 express. I've found it so far to be very reliable and consistent. I would stress to you that you follow their load guide to the letter though as BH 209 is a bit more powerful than regular BP. Here is their loading guide for BP cartridges. http://www.blackhorn209.com/wp-conte...tridgedata.pdf
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Old 07-27-2016, 02:42 AM
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From one of the competition shooters:

"If there is published 38-55 and 45-70 load data for Blackhorn I'm sure it would be safe to use in your H&R and trapdoors AS LONG AS BLACK POWDER PRESSURES ARE NOT EXCEEDED......ESPECIALLY IN THE TRAPDOOR.
Many loading manuals list data for low pressure, black powder equivalent smokeless loads for 38-55 and 45-70. I have gotten good accuracy using Unique and SR 4759 powders in both calibers. The 38-55 was usually loaded with bullets of around 250 grains, the trapdoor rifle was loaded with 500 gr. lead bullets, the carbine used 405 gr. lead bullets to help reduce recoil."
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Old 07-28-2016, 09:16 PM
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Yep trappers can be a bit on the "uhoh" side which is why I said to follow BH's guide to the letter.
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Old 07-30-2016, 06:33 AM
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Thanks guys for the info. I'll be trying it in my H&R first. If I can see any improvement which would make it worth the additional cost, I'll use it in the future.
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