200 Grain Shockwave
#21
You do recall correctly, there was a conversation about it. There is certainly some missing pieces of the puzzle and many believe that there was something wrong with the powder (pellets) or something else. It doesn't make much sense for a bullet known to pass through animals when it expands to not pass through an animal when it doesn't expand. And, since the story is second or third hand information and not Barnesaddicts own, who really knows what happened.
Here's an example of some, not shot into water bottles, but rather shot through paper, OSB and into a clay bank. I've had this photo for quite some time, as I haven't shot them in years. These however are NOT 200gr, but 250gr bullets.
#22
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Saxonburg Pa
Posts: 3,925
We have shot 30 plus Deer with 195 Barnes. Everytime the bullet pencils in and pencils out. Not once in awhile but everytime for me and my hunting partners. Most of the kills were with two 777 pellets. Almost exactly like Rons test showed with 50grns of powder. We then started using 200grn Shockwaves. Are results on Deer size game are much better over all with a 200grn SW then a 195grn barnes. And again like Rons test shows, when the 200grn SW was found it lost a lot of weight but the Deer all died and fairly quickly. The only barnes bullet that has worked well on game in my group is the 250grn MZ Expander, all the rest not good for us.
#23
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Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 2,922
We have shot 30 plus Deer with 195 Barnes. Everytime the bullet pencils in and pencils out. Not once in awhile but everytime for me and my hunting partners. Most of the kills were with two 777 pellets. Almost exactly like Rons test showed with 50grns of powder. We then started using 200grn Shockwaves. Are results on Deer size game are much better over all with a 200grn SW then a 195grn barnes. And again like Rons test shows, when the 200grn SW was found it lost a lot of weight but the Deer all died and fairly quickly. The only barnes bullet that has worked well on game in my group is the 250grn MZ Expander, all the rest not good for us.
Also, was that XTP you like a regular or Mag? What size XTP is that?
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#25
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Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Saxonburg Pa
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The .452 250grn regular XTP was good on Deer for us. But again it lost a lot of weight but I didn't care. The TMZ'S, XPB'S, Barnes Originals, all not good for our experiences.
#26
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Tennessee
Posts: 1,607
I turned a couple hunting buddies on to the 300g Expanders a few years ago and they now refuse to use anything else. This is due to the sole fact that they have out performed any other bullet they have used.
As for the Shockwave, I've only shot paper with them so I have no first hand knowledge. But I will say that one of the guys in the group mentioned above used both 200g and 250g Shockwaves and was blown away by the differences in how the Barnes bullets performed on deer.
#27
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Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Saxonburg Pa
Posts: 3,925
Wow, I don't even know what to say to that... I can't count how many people I have talked to that have been perfectly pleased with the results of TEZ and Expanders.
I turned a couple hunting buddies on to the 300g Expanders a few years ago and they now refuse to use anything else. This is due to the sole fact that they have out performed any other bullet they have used.
As for the Shockwave, I've only shot paper with them so I have no first hand knowledge. But I will say that one of the guys in the group mentioned above used both 200g and 250g Shockwaves and was blown away by the differences in how the Barnes bullets performed on deer.
I turned a couple hunting buddies on to the 300g Expanders a few years ago and they now refuse to use anything else. This is due to the sole fact that they have out performed any other bullet they have used.
As for the Shockwave, I've only shot paper with them so I have no first hand knowledge. But I will say that one of the guys in the group mentioned above used both 200g and 250g Shockwaves and was blown away by the differences in how the Barnes bullets performed on deer.
#28
We have shot 30 plus Deer with 195 Barnes. Everytime the bullet pencils in and pencils out. Not once in awhile but everytime for me and my hunting partners. Most of the kills were with two 777 pellets. Almost exactly like Rons test showed with 50grns of powder. We then started using 200grn Shockwaves. Are results on Deer size game are much better over all with a 200grn SW then a 195grn barnes. And again like Rons test shows, when the 200grn SW was found it lost a lot of weight but the Deer all died and fairly quickly. The only barnes bullet that has worked well on game in my group is the 250grn MZ Expander, all the rest not good for us.
You shot 30 deer with a bullet that was failing? Was 30 the magic number to stop using it?