blackhorn powder and knight bighorn??
09-18-2014, 06:46 PM
#52
Fork Horn
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: South Dakota
Posts: 147
I have a Knight Bighorn and have no trouble getting good groups. I have shot 777 and Goex 2f blackpowder. I have always used a No11Mag cap and never get a crud ring. Try 90 grains 777 2f and a 250sst or a 240XTP and if your gun is like mine you'll be shooting good groups with no crud ring. I also agree with another post, don't make this more complicated than it has to be.
09-18-2014, 06:53 PM
#53
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Saxonburg Pa
Posts: 3,925
2- I can't stand the crud ring with 777 and swabbing between shots.
3- BH209 is more consistent then the smokeless powders I have used. Mainly N110, N120, 4759, and 5744.
4- I think every modern inline muzzleloader should have a breech plug with a 5/32 flame channel and a ventliner with every powder being used.
09-18-2014, 06:57 PM
#54
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Colorado
Posts: 9,557
1-I buy BH209 cheaper then 777 here.
2- I can't stand the crud ring with 777 and swabbing between shots.
3- BH209 is more consistent then the smokeless powders I have used. Mainly N110, N120, 4759, and 5744.
4- I think every modern inline muzzleloader should have a breech plug with a 5/32 flame channel and a ventliner with every powder being used.
2- I can't stand the crud ring with 777 and swabbing between shots.
3- BH209 is more consistent then the smokeless powders I have used. Mainly N110, N120, 4759, and 5744.
4- I think every modern inline muzzleloader should have a breech plug with a 5/32 flame channel and a ventliner with every powder being used.
Then I read you suggesting 80gr, and it seemed to get ignored. I sort of lost patience after that.
09-18-2014, 07:15 PM
#55
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Saxonburg Pa
Posts: 3,925
I'm not a fan of plunger guns at all. I didn't feel that way until I started testing breech plugs in them. I learned in my own experiences that BH209 is the only powder I would use in one. But my max charge would be 80grns by volume with a 300grn bullet and 85 to 90 grains by volume with a 250grn bullet.
09-18-2014, 07:46 PM
#56
Spike
Thread Starter
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 46
he said to use 80 grains in volume with a 300 grain bullet and 90 grains with a 250 grain bullet. I didn't ignore it as I said I was doing the 90 grains with 250 grain bullet. I don't see how you keep saying I ignored all of the advice! if you read some of my post from today I state I'm not going to chance it and also looking into buying a new muzzleloader.
09-19-2014, 05:06 AM
#58
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 2,037
1. I use real black powder, Goex or Swiss. I find it has the most reliable ignition and it is very consistent.
2. No crud ring with real black. The crud ring you get using 777 and #11 caps is much less than what you get with 209 primers so it is not much of a factor.
3. The difference between BH209 and other smokeless powders is not a factor when using plunger guns. Best not to use any of them.
4. The removable #11 nipples acts the same as a ventliner. It can be removed and replaced when the channel gets too large, unlike Knight's brazed in ventliner.
2. No crud ring with real black. The crud ring you get using 777 and #11 caps is much less than what you get with 209 primers so it is not much of a factor.
3. The difference between BH209 and other smokeless powders is not a factor when using plunger guns. Best not to use any of them.
4. The removable #11 nipples acts the same as a ventliner. It can be removed and replaced when the channel gets too large, unlike Knight's brazed in ventliner.
09-19-2014, 06:43 AM
#59
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Colorado
Posts: 9,557
he said to use 80 grains in volume with a 300 grain bullet and 90 grains with a 250 grain bullet. I didn't ignore it as I said I was doing the 90 grains with 250 grain bullet. I don't see how you keep saying I ignored all of the advice! if you read some of my post from today I state I'm not going to chance it and also looking into buying a new muzzleloader.
I had a Wolverine for a short time. I was warned to not shoot BH in it. I was only going to use 80gr. Instead I used T7 with #11 cap. I got no crud ring, but i'm not a fan of T7, so I switched to Pyrodex, because I wanted t use a 209 primer. Still no crud ring, and the gun was shooting small groups.
I started out using traditional guns and black powder. I tried modern muzzleloading for awhile with inlines, sub powders, and modern bullets. I was never happy with it all. Now i'm back to a sidelock, real BP, and lead bullets. I'm happy again.
What bothered me the most about your posts was how you didn't accept any advice you were getting. You kept coming back with......yeah, but Knight says.....
I was going to offer you some advice, but i like to read a whole thread first before posting. By the time I got through the thread I no longer felt like being gentle with my answer, and just gave you one that was honest and blunt. You didn't like that, and called me a jerk. I wasn't surprised.