Recommend a ML rifle for me :)
08-28-2014, 12:41 PM
#1
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Recommend a ML rifle for me :)
Without getting into fights.... Please give me some pointers or general direction on what I should look for in a muzzleloader. I am clueless in this dept..
Back when I was a kid I used to go to the big NMLRA shoot in Friendship Indiana. My dad would set up a tipi and I would go play in the creek or walk the grounds and look at all the dudes dressed up like mountain men. LOL
I shot a couple of the guns back then. Nothing modern. That is about the extent of my muzzleloader experience.
Anyhow, what I'm looking for is a modern ML to use to hunt mule deer. Easy to load and maintain. I can only use iron sights or a 1x scope here in Utah. (my dad would probably roll over in his grave if he knew I wanted a ML with a scope)
I'd be using Barnes bullets.
Recoil isn't usually an issue for me. I've killed deer with my 870 with 3" slug loads and my main big game rifle is a .300 win mag.. Though I am a bit leery of shooting my husband's .338 lapua.
(mostly because it's set up wrong for me)
I would prefer to spend less than $500.00.
Suggestions?
Thanks!
Back when I was a kid I used to go to the big NMLRA shoot in Friendship Indiana. My dad would set up a tipi and I would go play in the creek or walk the grounds and look at all the dudes dressed up like mountain men. LOL
I shot a couple of the guns back then. Nothing modern. That is about the extent of my muzzleloader experience.
Anyhow, what I'm looking for is a modern ML to use to hunt mule deer. Easy to load and maintain. I can only use iron sights or a 1x scope here in Utah. (my dad would probably roll over in his grave if he knew I wanted a ML with a scope)
I'd be using Barnes bullets.
Recoil isn't usually an issue for me. I've killed deer with my 870 with 3" slug loads and my main big game rifle is a .300 win mag.. Though I am a bit leery of shooting my husband's .338 lapua.
(mostly because it's set up wrong for me) I would prefer to spend less than $500.00.
Suggestions?
Thanks!
08-28-2014, 01:10 PM
#2
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 6,585
At that price range I would go with a Triumph I have one I have been shooting for many years and what ever else I try I still go back to the Triumph it is the most gun dollar for value I have ever had and I have had a lot of them.
I would also recommend Black 209 I have found it adds a lot to my capabilities. The 195 grain Barns with a 50/40 Harvester sabot or the 200 grain Lehigh in a 50/40 sabot with the most Blackhorn your gun will hold good accuracy with is good for longer ranges.
I would also recommend Black 209 I have found it adds a lot to my capabilities. The 195 grain Barns with a 50/40 Harvester sabot or the 200 grain Lehigh in a 50/40 sabot with the most Blackhorn your gun will hold good accuracy with is good for longer ranges.
08-28-2014, 01:11 PM
#3
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Rapid City, South Dakota
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What you maybe could do is go to a store, and shoulder a few rifles so for to see how they feel to you. A rifle i have read about, but not shot, is the TC Impact. It might be worth a look, because it has an adjustable stock, which allows for different size shooters. Owners of this rifle have said good things about the accuracy, and reliability of their Impact.
08-28-2014, 01:20 PM
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Dominant Buck
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Location: Wisconsin
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With that price range, there are many good rifles. Since you want easy to maintain and operate, I would suggest a break open like the Triumph, Omega, Optima, Accura, although a Knight rifle is sure hard to beat. Being in Utah, maybe even a used White rifle. As for the scope, a good 1x can run from 50.00 to 200.00 dollars depending on the brand you pick. When I shot 1x scopes I liked the Nikon 1x20mm and the T/C 1x32mm. Both of them good scopes. Even the Traditions 1x32mm for $50.00 is hard to beat.
08-28-2014, 02:33 PM
#6
Fork Horn
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 205
This is a lot of information for you to take in, I wish I had it when I got into muzzleloading. One thing you may find out, is when people give you advice about loads for you to try, your gun may not shoot the bullet and powder combinations some other people are shooting. That is not a bad thing, they probably didn’t lie to you, and you just have to vary other bullets, powders, sabots, or volume of your charges. One of the best ways to do this is with advice from people that have the same manufacture and model of muzzleloader as you. Changing one thing may put you where you want to be, over time a lot of people find out what normally works. Don’t discount advice unless you have tried it and the advice just doesn’t work for you. Just because the manual for your gun does not recommend doing something, doesn’t mean another manufacture recommends the same thing. Read the manufactures manual for the muzzleloader you purchase. The recommendations of the manufacturer should be followed, a suggestion and a recommendation are two different things, and in my manual for my Accura V2 CVA recommends you try several powder and bullet combinations. For my Accura V2 CVA says do not use saboted bullets of over 300 grains. CVA says do not use a conical bullet weighing over 400 grains. See the difference, those statements on bullet weight are not negotiable. I have known a lot of people that do it, I might let them know but I have to remember it is their gun and their responsibility not mine. I might stand way back when they shoot their gun like that. CVA says for 150 grains of powder they recommend pellets for powder, not that you can’t shoot a powder, CVA says loose powder does not burn as efficient as pellets in magnum loads in the 150 grain range. I have had a load that using magnum charges just didn’t work out, if I wanted to I could try pellets instead. Actually I like loose powder, “BH 209” if a bullet won’t work with it between 100 and 110 grains of BH 209 I probably would not shoot it. Transitions response to which models will shoot Blackhorn BH 209 Powder = Thank you for contacting us with your inquiry regarding which of our firearms can use the Blackhorn 209 powder. Our Vortek Strikerfire 209 models, Vortek 209 models, Pursuit 209 models and Buckstalker models are all designed with the closed breech system and can use Blackhorn 209 powders effectively. We have done extensive shooting with Blackhorn 209 powder in these models and have been very satisfied with the nice tight consistent groups as well as the benefit of being such a clean burning powder in these models. We typically use the Federal 209A primers with this powder. Now you should have an idea of what muzzleloading is all about, when in doubt always check with the manufacture of the muzzleloader you purchase, stay within the manufactures recommendations and you can’t go wrong.
Use the information you need, forget the rest. Rifle Manufactures, and models are at the bottom of this page.
POWDER:
I would check and see what the mfg. recommends for any gun you select, FF or FFF, you can call the Manufacture and ask them before you buy a gun. Or read the manual after you buy the gun.
Here is an explanation of different powders http://www.chuckhawks.com/blackpowder_roundup_2010.htm one powder I would recommend, is Western Powders Blackhorn 209: http://www.blackhorn209.com I have shot them all and BH 209 is the best. The powder is so potent that the manufacture recommends 120 grains as the maximum charge, even if the gun you purchase is designed to shoot 150 grains of other substitutes. Some older guns are not designed to shoot BH 209 or 150 grains of other substitutes. Here is the link to Western powders BH 209 article by Randy Wakeman, I don’t agree with everything he says but it will give you a good Idea of BH 209. http://www.chuckhawks.com/most_blackhorn_209.htm. One thing, If you decide to get a CVA and shoot BH 209, You need to buy a Blackhorn 209 breech plug from CVA http://www.cva.com/CVA-store.php?sho...eech%20Plugs#l or a western Powders BH 209 breech plug for CVA guns. https://www.westernpowders.com/ The Accura V2 CVA BH 209 plug takes a 1/8” drill bit to clean the carbon out of the flash channel (area under the primer), the OEM CVA Breech Plug, which is designed to shoot pellets, it takes .116 or a #32 drill bit, other models may vary drill bit size. The western powders breech plug for CVA comes with the proper drill bit. My T/C Pro Hunter came factory ready for BH 209 or any other powder or pellet, it takes a 1/8” drill bit (SIZE COMPLEMENTS OF ENCORE) to clean the flash channel, and other T/C Models may take a different drill bit size. Here is a link for tools to clean the flash channel and the flash hole in a breech plug. (FREE SHIPPING) http://www.plugcleaner.com/ you adjust the collar in the kit to keep the drill bit off the flash hole. If the kit listed does not have your drill bit size call 440-238-6050 or e-mail them at [email protected]. If you just want to use a drill bit wrap electrical tape around the shank of the bit until you can grip the bit firmly, then twist it in the flash channel using only finger pressure, about once every 6 shots. Be careful as too much pressure could damage the flash hole. Also not enough pressure will not clean the carbon out near the flash hole. Carbon can be very hard.
Randy says to use an electric drill every 100 shots! I would not do this, you would probably damage the flash hole in the breech plug, if you cleaned the flash channel between every 100 shots, and you would probably need an electric drill. If there is any doubt as to the size of a drill bit to clean the Breech Plug on the gun you select, Call the manufacturer of the gun, you can do this before you make the purchase.
BULLETS:
One bullet to try would be the Hornady #44280 .44 Cal 300 grain XTP with the Harvester green crush rib sabot, or another bullet is the Hornady #45202 SST/ML 250 grain bullet with the Thompson Center Superglide Sabot. I use 100 grains of BH 209 with these 2 bullet combinations. Accuracy is very good, you could start at 90 grains and work your way up to 120 grains of BH 209 powder, use the load with the best group to initially sight your muzzleloader in, unless you find a better bullet and powder combination. Those bullets are both adequate to hunt deer if they group for you. I’d use the Hornady XTP at 100 yards or less, the SST/ML you could probably stretch it out a bit depending on your group. The reason I would recommend these bullets to sight in with is because they are relatively cheap, you can buy both in bulk and sabots at LG Outdoors, harvester, or MMP. You could sight your gun in and get experience without shooting expensive bullets. Then you can select something like the Barnes TEZ 250 grain bullet. I don’t think it would take you as long to sight in the Barnes TEZ, once you have sighted your gun with the cheaper bullets. As you sight your rifle in, roughly adjust your scope or sights to the center of the target, all you want to do is find which bullet and charge combination is the most accurate. After you find your bullet and powder combination that is the most accurate in your gun, adjust your sights or scope for POA and POI. If one bullet does not work well in your gun, try another. I personally use the Barnes Spitfire TEZ 250 grain bullet, it is an all copper bullet, and it is a flat base bullet that comes with a blue sabot. You can buy Barnes bullets in bulk and use MMP Sabots, here is a link to buy various Barnes and other bullets & sabots in bulk. (Compliments of Encore), http://www.smokelessmz.com/bullets.html here is a link to choose sabots for Barnes Bullets. (If the link doesn’t work, if you really want to see the information you are going to have to open another window and manually enter the link, into your browser, it is worth the effort) file:///H:/Best%20Accuracy%20For%20Your%20Muzzleloader%20%20% 20Barnes%20Bullets.htm Here is a link from Barnes with Bullet and Velocity information using numerous Powders and Bullets. http://www.barnesbullets.com/images/...loaderData.pdf. This link does not contain information for the Barnes TEZ, this is an older link, TEZ bullet and velocity information is available when you purchase TEZ Bullets in 15 per pack, you can also get information on various bullet Velocities and with powder charges of 100, 110 and 120 grains of Blackhorn 209 powder on this site http://www.blackhorn209.com . The TEZ is very accurate and expand at low velocities and at high velocities. I use 110 grains of BH 209 with this bullet, it groups well at 100 yards and will stretch out to 200 yards, farther than that depending on the shooter. Again if you start shooting the TEZ vary your charges until you find what your gun likes, with BH 209 start at 90 grains and work up to 120 grains using BH 209. (A sweet spot for BH 209 seems to be 100 to 110 grains) I would not use a powerbelt bullet, I do not think they are for beginners. Too much powder and they may disintegrate, too little and they will pencil through deer. The platinum powerbelt bullets are for magnum loads of 100 grains or more of powder or pellet. Many people swear by the powerbelts. I would not use T/C Maxie bullets, they have absolutely no expansion and will pencil through a deer. I used a 430 grain Maxie bullet to hunt deer, and killed many deer with the Maxie, with a .54 Caliber T/C Renegade and 100 grains of Pyrodex powder, it would knock your teeth out. Sabots may be obtained from Harvester https://www.harvestermuzzleloading.com/ Or MMP: http://mmpsabots.com/ If you need help selecting a sabot call Harvester or MMP and they will help you match the bullet you want to shoot with a sabot. Ask them for a couple of recommendations as if one sabot does not work with your gun you will have another sabot to try. If all else fails, select another bullet and or sabot. Here is a good supplier for Bullets and a lot of other things related to muzzleloading. http://www.midsouthshooterssupply.co...?CurrentPage=1
RIFLES:
I am partial to CVA guns, I just like them. I have an Accura V2 that works great for me. There are 4 of the muzzleloading manufactures listed below. The only gun I could not recommend is the T/C Pro Hunter. Mine shoots great, I have had no issues, not in hunting or on the range. But I have read posts that indicate a problem with accuracy from some and no help from T/C. People modify the T/C Pro Hunter using aftermarket parts and also to include cutting off the end of the barrel known as the QLA. If one has problems they can cure all known issues with just $35.00 worth of parts (information provided by Encore), if one can do the work themselves. Not including cutting off the QLA if needed. If you can’t do the work yourself it will probably cost you for a gun shop to do it for you, modifications would probably void your warranty with Thompson center. A beginner has no business buying a T/C Pro Hunter, The beginner has too much to learn and does not need to try to trouble shoot a muzzleloader being inaccurate, other than cleaning procedures, Bullet selection, powder selection or grains of powder to use.
http://www.cva.com/ Very good fast customer service, I think the best value for the money, accurate to. I own the Accura V2, CVA gives you 17 days to shoot it, if it is not the best gun you have ever shot, CVA will refund your money. If you decide to purchase a CVA muzzleloader and decide at some point you need a shim kit, here it is, http://www.cva.com/CVA-Store-View.php?id=504 be sure to read all instructions.
http://www.knightrifles.com/ scroll to the bottom of the page to access all of the options. I have heard their customer service is lacking and that it can be hard to get a hold of them when needed, depending on what time of year it is. I have also heard their guns are accurate and kind of pricey, and harder to clean than a break action gun. I have never owned one of the knight muzzleloaders.
https://www.traditionsfirearms.com/c.../Muzzleloaders I have never owned a Traditions muzzleloader, and have never heard anything about customer service. Once I read a review about one of their muzzleloaders, there were a couple of minor negative comments, and as I remember the muzzleloader reviewed was accurate.
https://www.tcarms.com/firearms/ Scroll down to see muzzleloaders. Except for the Pro Hunter I have not heard much negative about the T/C line of guns. I think their customer service sucks. They are pricey.
I would consider looking around for prices if you find a muzzleloader you are interested in. The manufacture sites tend to be on the high dollar side. Here is one site that I hear is pretty good to deal with and has good deals on rifles: http://www.muzzle-loaders.com/muzzleloader-rifles.php When you find the rifle you want google it by Mfg. and model name, you will get many retail sites that you can compare pricing and reviews. Google a specific brand and/or type and/or caliber of bullet, you can compare prices and possibly find the bullet in bulk.
Use the information you need, forget the rest. Rifle Manufactures, and models are at the bottom of this page.
POWDER:
I would check and see what the mfg. recommends for any gun you select, FF or FFF, you can call the Manufacture and ask them before you buy a gun. Or read the manual after you buy the gun.
Here is an explanation of different powders http://www.chuckhawks.com/blackpowder_roundup_2010.htm one powder I would recommend, is Western Powders Blackhorn 209: http://www.blackhorn209.com I have shot them all and BH 209 is the best. The powder is so potent that the manufacture recommends 120 grains as the maximum charge, even if the gun you purchase is designed to shoot 150 grains of other substitutes. Some older guns are not designed to shoot BH 209 or 150 grains of other substitutes. Here is the link to Western powders BH 209 article by Randy Wakeman, I don’t agree with everything he says but it will give you a good Idea of BH 209. http://www.chuckhawks.com/most_blackhorn_209.htm. One thing, If you decide to get a CVA and shoot BH 209, You need to buy a Blackhorn 209 breech plug from CVA http://www.cva.com/CVA-store.php?sho...eech%20Plugs#l or a western Powders BH 209 breech plug for CVA guns. https://www.westernpowders.com/ The Accura V2 CVA BH 209 plug takes a 1/8” drill bit to clean the carbon out of the flash channel (area under the primer), the OEM CVA Breech Plug, which is designed to shoot pellets, it takes .116 or a #32 drill bit, other models may vary drill bit size. The western powders breech plug for CVA comes with the proper drill bit. My T/C Pro Hunter came factory ready for BH 209 or any other powder or pellet, it takes a 1/8” drill bit (SIZE COMPLEMENTS OF ENCORE) to clean the flash channel, and other T/C Models may take a different drill bit size. Here is a link for tools to clean the flash channel and the flash hole in a breech plug. (FREE SHIPPING) http://www.plugcleaner.com/ you adjust the collar in the kit to keep the drill bit off the flash hole. If the kit listed does not have your drill bit size call 440-238-6050 or e-mail them at [email protected]. If you just want to use a drill bit wrap electrical tape around the shank of the bit until you can grip the bit firmly, then twist it in the flash channel using only finger pressure, about once every 6 shots. Be careful as too much pressure could damage the flash hole. Also not enough pressure will not clean the carbon out near the flash hole. Carbon can be very hard.
Randy says to use an electric drill every 100 shots! I would not do this, you would probably damage the flash hole in the breech plug, if you cleaned the flash channel between every 100 shots, and you would probably need an electric drill. If there is any doubt as to the size of a drill bit to clean the Breech Plug on the gun you select, Call the manufacturer of the gun, you can do this before you make the purchase.
BULLETS:
One bullet to try would be the Hornady #44280 .44 Cal 300 grain XTP with the Harvester green crush rib sabot, or another bullet is the Hornady #45202 SST/ML 250 grain bullet with the Thompson Center Superglide Sabot. I use 100 grains of BH 209 with these 2 bullet combinations. Accuracy is very good, you could start at 90 grains and work your way up to 120 grains of BH 209 powder, use the load with the best group to initially sight your muzzleloader in, unless you find a better bullet and powder combination. Those bullets are both adequate to hunt deer if they group for you. I’d use the Hornady XTP at 100 yards or less, the SST/ML you could probably stretch it out a bit depending on your group. The reason I would recommend these bullets to sight in with is because they are relatively cheap, you can buy both in bulk and sabots at LG Outdoors, harvester, or MMP. You could sight your gun in and get experience without shooting expensive bullets. Then you can select something like the Barnes TEZ 250 grain bullet. I don’t think it would take you as long to sight in the Barnes TEZ, once you have sighted your gun with the cheaper bullets. As you sight your rifle in, roughly adjust your scope or sights to the center of the target, all you want to do is find which bullet and charge combination is the most accurate. After you find your bullet and powder combination that is the most accurate in your gun, adjust your sights or scope for POA and POI. If one bullet does not work well in your gun, try another. I personally use the Barnes Spitfire TEZ 250 grain bullet, it is an all copper bullet, and it is a flat base bullet that comes with a blue sabot. You can buy Barnes bullets in bulk and use MMP Sabots, here is a link to buy various Barnes and other bullets & sabots in bulk. (Compliments of Encore), http://www.smokelessmz.com/bullets.html here is a link to choose sabots for Barnes Bullets. (If the link doesn’t work, if you really want to see the information you are going to have to open another window and manually enter the link, into your browser, it is worth the effort) file:///H:/Best%20Accuracy%20For%20Your%20Muzzleloader%20%20% 20Barnes%20Bullets.htm Here is a link from Barnes with Bullet and Velocity information using numerous Powders and Bullets. http://www.barnesbullets.com/images/...loaderData.pdf. This link does not contain information for the Barnes TEZ, this is an older link, TEZ bullet and velocity information is available when you purchase TEZ Bullets in 15 per pack, you can also get information on various bullet Velocities and with powder charges of 100, 110 and 120 grains of Blackhorn 209 powder on this site http://www.blackhorn209.com . The TEZ is very accurate and expand at low velocities and at high velocities. I use 110 grains of BH 209 with this bullet, it groups well at 100 yards and will stretch out to 200 yards, farther than that depending on the shooter. Again if you start shooting the TEZ vary your charges until you find what your gun likes, with BH 209 start at 90 grains and work up to 120 grains using BH 209. (A sweet spot for BH 209 seems to be 100 to 110 grains) I would not use a powerbelt bullet, I do not think they are for beginners. Too much powder and they may disintegrate, too little and they will pencil through deer. The platinum powerbelt bullets are for magnum loads of 100 grains or more of powder or pellet. Many people swear by the powerbelts. I would not use T/C Maxie bullets, they have absolutely no expansion and will pencil through a deer. I used a 430 grain Maxie bullet to hunt deer, and killed many deer with the Maxie, with a .54 Caliber T/C Renegade and 100 grains of Pyrodex powder, it would knock your teeth out. Sabots may be obtained from Harvester https://www.harvestermuzzleloading.com/ Or MMP: http://mmpsabots.com/ If you need help selecting a sabot call Harvester or MMP and they will help you match the bullet you want to shoot with a sabot. Ask them for a couple of recommendations as if one sabot does not work with your gun you will have another sabot to try. If all else fails, select another bullet and or sabot. Here is a good supplier for Bullets and a lot of other things related to muzzleloading. http://www.midsouthshooterssupply.co...?CurrentPage=1
RIFLES:
I am partial to CVA guns, I just like them. I have an Accura V2 that works great for me. There are 4 of the muzzleloading manufactures listed below. The only gun I could not recommend is the T/C Pro Hunter. Mine shoots great, I have had no issues, not in hunting or on the range. But I have read posts that indicate a problem with accuracy from some and no help from T/C. People modify the T/C Pro Hunter using aftermarket parts and also to include cutting off the end of the barrel known as the QLA. If one has problems they can cure all known issues with just $35.00 worth of parts (information provided by Encore), if one can do the work themselves. Not including cutting off the QLA if needed. If you can’t do the work yourself it will probably cost you for a gun shop to do it for you, modifications would probably void your warranty with Thompson center. A beginner has no business buying a T/C Pro Hunter, The beginner has too much to learn and does not need to try to trouble shoot a muzzleloader being inaccurate, other than cleaning procedures, Bullet selection, powder selection or grains of powder to use.
http://www.cva.com/ Very good fast customer service, I think the best value for the money, accurate to. I own the Accura V2, CVA gives you 17 days to shoot it, if it is not the best gun you have ever shot, CVA will refund your money. If you decide to purchase a CVA muzzleloader and decide at some point you need a shim kit, here it is, http://www.cva.com/CVA-Store-View.php?id=504 be sure to read all instructions.
http://www.knightrifles.com/ scroll to the bottom of the page to access all of the options. I have heard their customer service is lacking and that it can be hard to get a hold of them when needed, depending on what time of year it is. I have also heard their guns are accurate and kind of pricey, and harder to clean than a break action gun. I have never owned one of the knight muzzleloaders.
https://www.traditionsfirearms.com/c.../Muzzleloaders I have never owned a Traditions muzzleloader, and have never heard anything about customer service. Once I read a review about one of their muzzleloaders, there were a couple of minor negative comments, and as I remember the muzzleloader reviewed was accurate.
https://www.tcarms.com/firearms/ Scroll down to see muzzleloaders. Except for the Pro Hunter I have not heard much negative about the T/C line of guns. I think their customer service sucks. They are pricey.
I would consider looking around for prices if you find a muzzleloader you are interested in. The manufacture sites tend to be on the high dollar side. Here is one site that I hear is pretty good to deal with and has good deals on rifles: http://www.muzzle-loaders.com/muzzleloader-rifles.php When you find the rifle you want google it by Mfg. and model name, you will get many retail sites that you can compare pricing and reviews. Google a specific brand and/or type and/or caliber of bullet, you can compare prices and possibly find the bullet in bulk.
Last edited by d.winsor; 09-04-2014 at 08:48 AM.
08-28-2014, 03:09 PM
#7
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 5,605
If you dont mind used there is a nice Omega 45cal in the classifieds. I can strongly recommend the seller.
http://www.huntingnet.com/forum/muzz...ber-omega.html
Barnes offers a 40cal 195gr MZ bullet for 45cal ML that is very effective
http://www.huntingnet.com/forum/muzz...ber-omega.html
Barnes offers a 40cal 195gr MZ bullet for 45cal ML that is very effective
Last edited by Gm54-120; 08-28-2014 at 03:14 PM.
08-28-2014, 04:45 PM
#8
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Rapid City, South Dakota
Posts: 3,732
False. TC breech plugs have a 1/8" flame channel... that is 0.125", and one should use a 1/8" drill to clean the crud from the flame channel of a breech plug from a TC rifle.
08-28-2014, 05:39 PM
#9
Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Eastern PA
Posts: 12,746
There are so many quality inline MLs out there I suggest what a couple other guys did. Go to a shop and fondle a couple and see what feels good to you with the features you want.
I personally prefer a break open design like the CVA Accura because of its simplicity and I feel its easier to install the primer with my big paws.
I personally prefer a break open design like the CVA Accura because of its simplicity and I feel its easier to install the primer with my big paws.
08-28-2014, 05:45 PM
#10
Fork Horn
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 205
So in essence My knowledge of the size of the flash Channel for the Breech Plug for the T/C Encore Pro Hunter is complements of BarnesAddict.
Last edited by d.winsor; 08-30-2014 at 03:07 PM.