Which are the most accurate muzzloaders today?

[JoeRE]

I am in the market for a new muzzloader and am interested in what others have found to be the most accurate muzzloading rifle out there. Black powder, not smokeless powder.

I am looking for a .45 caliber, preferably break action, .209 ignition system. I have a gun that I can (and have) reliably take deer out to 200 yards and want to push that envelope out to 250 or so - i.e. I am looking for guns that can get <1.5" groups at 100 yards. What do you guys have?

[onetohunt]

Man this one is going to get it going because there are "fan boys" all over the place. You are going to get a lot of varying answers. So here is mine. I'm not a "fan" of break actions, I like the bolt style muzzy, so "my" choice is a Knight!! I really love my Mountaineer, but enjoy by Extreme and MHC as well. They all shoot great at a 100 yards. My Extreme is a .45 and is a real pleasure to shoot, my others are .50 cals and have a little more kick but nothing to sever at all. My suggestion is once you have it numbered down to 20 or so, haha, shoulder a few and see if they are going to fit your style of shooting and go from there. Good luck with your quest!!

[sabotloader]

Originally Posted by JoeRE

I am in the market for a new muzzloader and am interested in what others have found to be the most accurate muzzloading rifle out there. Black powder, not smokeless powder.

I am looking for a .45 caliber, preferably break action, .209 ignition system. I have a gun that I can (and have) reliably take deer out to 200 yards and want to push that envelope out to 250 or so - i.e. I am looking for guns that can get <1.5" groups at 100 yards. What do you guys have?

I would suggest that most of the ML's on the market today can shoot 1 1/2" groups @ 100 with the better projectiles on the market if we do our part.

Since you have indicated a 'break open' and there are some really good ones out there - I can not be of much help other that to tell you my Omega (not really a break open more a falling block) and my Triumph will both shoot the 1 1/2 group.

I really do not use them that much any longer as I have discovered the Knight DISC Elite-Extreme and now the Mountaineer, and I much prefer the one piece strength of these rifles, but I could be in the minority. Speaking of accuracy, Knight has a guarantee of a 4" group @ 200 with the upper end Knights, but then again I think most other ML's will get in that area with the right components.

If you are not in a hurry to get this gun you might wait for Knight to announce their 2012 lineup. They may have some nice surprises for eveyone.

[lemoyne]

My opinion is similar to Sabotloaders. Any of the TC or the Knights will shoot a minute of angle as will the top of the line CVA but you have to find a load that the gun likes [which is more difficult with a 45 than a 50 because of the very limited supply of bullets available] but most of the time the problem is the capabilities of the operator. I have a varmint rifle which will shoot 1/4 inch groups with a really good bench shooter behind it but a lot of the people I have let try it shoot 4 to 6 inch groups with the same 20 power scope and gun and shell that will shoot 1/4 inch with one of a few people behind it.

[mountaineer magic]

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[Boonechaser]

Originally Posted by JoeRE

I am in the market for a new muzzloader and am interested in what others have found to be the most accurate muzzloading rifle out there. Black powder, not smokeless powder.

I am looking for a .45 caliber, preferably break action, .209 ignition system. I have a gun that I can (and have) reliably take deer out to 200 yards and want to push that envelope out to 250 or so - i.e. I am looking for guns that can get <1.5" groups at 100 yards. What do you guys have?

If you can do 200 with your current set up, i am sure with a little tweaking of the load or bullet. You can accomplish 250yds. without buying anything. If you are looking for a break action a Triumph or a drop action would be an Omega( to me the drop is just as easy to clean and shoot as a break action). Both are excellant guns and will hold their own with any gun on the market.

If you are dedicated to a .45 my opinion would gear towards an Omega. This is about the best deal you will find on a stainless/ composite .45

http://store.thirdgenerationshooting...fm/4,7343.html

[MountainDevil54]

If its a .45 i'd go with an Encore frame but a .45cal Bergara barrel.

[chaded]

Originally Posted by MountainDevil54

If its a .45 i'd go with an Encore frame but a .45cal Bergara barrel.

I can agree with this.

[JoeRE]

Thanks for the replies...it gives me some stuff to browse! I have shot a lot of different guns and prefer break action but might go for a bolt style if I think the gun has something no break action has.

One question though - does Knight make .45s currently? I didn't think they did anymore but I see some of you are shooting .45 Knights?

[JoeRE]

One other question - Any of you shot the new CVA Accura V2 with the Bergara barrel (in .45 cal)? Can't find many reviews of it...