No way in the world am I going to be moving messing with a scope while hunting. Especially with a muzzleloader. The BDC reticle is by far the easiest solution for longer range ML hunting. The biggest mistakes hunters make is moving.
Both concepts seem to work,things i do not like about BDC scopes #1 the darn dots and circles used for various distances and having to make sure your scope is on max power. with the turret design,one would be looking through clean uncluttered cross hairs at all times.i really don't see any issues with movement, since stand hunter would more than likely have there scope set for shorter distances.when animals are say 100 yds or more,reaching to make a slight adjustment isn't a issue IMHO. for folks that live in area's where long shots are the norm (like myself) the turret system just may be there best option.Nikon is now offering this feature and since i own a Nikon scope, i am seriously considering this option on my .45 cal rifle.in the end it's all about personal preference
I have a Leupold Ultimate Slam MLer Scope with the BDC, I used the BDC for one season then I quit using it. For me the easiest way I found is for me to sight in 2" high at 50yds. By doing this all I have to do is hold on the heart on shots 50yds and under, hold dead center on shots out to 125yds and hold top of the lungs on shots from 175 t0 200yds.
I know what's 50 a 100, 150 and 200 so it's simple, just hold on the kill area and fire. Even if I forget to hold low at close shots and hold dead center Im still in the top of the Lungs, and if I underestimate the longer shots and hold dead center Im still in the heart. Most of the time I just hold dead center lungs and Im good with shots 75 to 150, that's where most of my shots are and it has'nt let me down yet.
This is with a 240gr XTP Mag Bullet and a 110gr Load of Pyrodox RS. I dont worry or guess I just hold in the kill area and shoot.
(BP)
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No way in the world am I going to be moving messing with a scope while hunting. Especially with a muzzleloader. The BDC reticle is by far the easiest solution for longer range ML hunting. The biggest mistakes hunters make is moving.
Myself, i killed 2 deer this year using the cds turret. Both were ranged with a laser, then the cds dial set. It was easy for me. One was 123 yard, the other 173 yard. Setting the dial, aiming, and killing was as good as killing can be.
At the range, at least twice i have shot at 100 yard, then moved to 200 yard, shot and not hit paper because i forgot to twist the dial. Also, i have started at 200 yard, then moved to 270 yard, and forgot to twist the dial. Also, i have started at 200 yard, and forgot to twist the dial after moving into 100 yard.
Now after all these success/failure i am so happy the view in the scope has one aim point, clear of dots, circles, etc.
In my opinion the range engraved turret is absolutely perfect for muzzle loaders; far more valuable for muzzle loader shooters, than center fire shooters. In my opinion the engraved turrets will turn out to be a paradigm changing feature of scopes used by muzzle loader shooters.
I have a Leupold Ultimate Slam MLer Scope with the BDC, I used the BDC for one season then I quit using it. For me the easiest way I found is for me to sight in 2" high at 50yds. By doing this all I have to do is hold on the heart on shots 50yds and under, hold dead center on shots out to 125yds and hold top of the lungs on shots from 175 t0 200yds.
I know what's 50 a 100, 150 and 200 so it's simple, just hold on the kill area and fire. Even if I forget to hold low at close shots and hold dead center Im still in the top of the Lungs, and if I underestimate the longer shots and hold dead center Im still in the heart. Most of the time I just hold dead center lungs and Im good with shots 75 to 150, that's where most of my shots are and it has'nt let me down yet.
This is with a 240gr XTP Mag Bullet and a 110gr Load of Pyrodox RS. I dont worry or guess I just hold in the kill area and shoot.
(BP)
What I like the most about your post is, you know your equipment and have obviously did pre-season range work to know your ML and it's capabilities. Excellent job in my opinion.
I have both and to me it is simple, If hunting at extreme range where the animal is going to ignore what you are doing and it is to open for a stalk then setting a Turret is fine and will give a bit finer accuracy. I live where most shots are 20 to 70 yds and on rare occasions I have gotten a 200yd shot down a tractor lane or ATV track which is where I use the BDC. They are both excellent if you use them the way they were designed for.
Ive never used a scope with circles or dots...to me, its clutter and in my way. I had thought about getting one a while back, but after looking through it I decided not to.
I do just like BP does. I just make sure I know where my gun hits...and put the crosshair on it. I'll never (with my current setup) shoot past 150, so I don't have a need for anything special at this time. My gun is sighted 2" high at 50, and I'm in the kill zone for my range just by aiming on it. This is the same way I shoot my bow...I have one pin, and my bow is setup and tuned so I just hold on the kill zone within my given range. Takes the guesswork out of it. I like it simple I guess.
If I had to choose for longer ranges, I'd take the turret. I can see where it could potentially mess you up...but again, shooting out at 200, 250, etc...(for me) would take some calculating and I feel like I'd be on top of it. I guess someday maybe we'll see. You guys keep shooting 250-300 yds, I'm liable to get an itch to try it. LOL
BDC Reticle vs Turrets.
