Are there any issues with using Rem oil to lubricate and protect the bore? I just bought a tc impact, my first ml, I cleaned it before shooting it my first time, and afterwards. I cleaned it the same way I do all my firearms, with hoppes no.9, a dry patch and rem oil. Before shooting I ran a couple of dry patches down the bore to remove any excess rem oil. Is rem oil a no no? Would I be better off with something like bore butter, and does anyone lubricate their bullets with this stuff? Thanks!
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Are there any issues with using Rem oil to lubricate and protect the bore?
This is only me... but i would not use any product with Teflon in the bore not for the lack of protection, but because Teflon will burn and get sticky hanging on to the fouling. If I could suggest i would suggest that you get a quality 'synthetic' oil to treat your bore with. Rem Oil on the outside parts is probably excellent...
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I just bought a tc impact, my first ml, I cleaned it before shooting it my first time, and afterwards. I cleaned it the same way I do all my firearms, with hoppes no.9, a dry patch and rem oil. Before shooting I ran a couple of dry patches down the bore to remove any excess rem oil. Is rem oil a no no? Would I be better off with something like bore butter, and does anyone lubricate their bullets with this stuff? Thanks!
I think in these days you should pass on Bore Butter - if the product is used correctly, or what I think is correct, it will help reduce fouling, but there are better ways today. I use one of two different oils, either Montana X-Treme Bore Conditioner or Slip 2000 - both of these are synthetic.
Which powder are you shooting?
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Works great as a post cleaning water displacer. Then wipe away the excess.
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hoppes no.9
Not really suited for BP but may work with some of the subs. Water based solvent like Butch's Bore Shine, T/C No. 13 or moose milk dissolve BP fouling.
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bore butter
I never found grease type lubes (crisco and bore butter) to be very good for PRB or bore protection, but OK for conicals (minnie and maxi style).
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I don't use Rem oil in any of my bores. I have a can for years and I only use it to wipe down the exterior metal surfaces. For my bores I use Montana Xtreme Cowboy blend followed by their Bore Conditioner. This is AFTER cleaning the bore with a BP solvent and drying with an alcohol patch.
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I use Rem Oil with Teflon from time to time to protect the bore. But I swab with isopropyl alcohol on a patch before I shoot. Then a couple dry patches. I am guessing the reason I never had any trouble with it is the alcohol on the patch is removing the oil and teflon. I am guessing there is very little teflon in the product. I use it, never had a problem with fouling etc..
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I use Rem Oil with Teflon from time to time to protect the bore. But I swab with isopropyl alcohol on a patch before I shoot. Then a couple dry patches. I am guessing the reason I never had any trouble with it is the alcohol on the patch is removing the oil and teflon. I am guessing there is very little teflon in the product. I use it, never had a problem with fouling etc..
My experience mirrors this. I love using the stuff. But then again, I don't use a lot either.
I have even heard some folks say that teflon is one of the causes for the 'crud ring' with 777. But I have never experienced that either.
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So just put this in the category of "What I think I know" after doing reasearch over a long period of time - a few years ago when I stopped using oils with Teflon...
I would add this point point if you were to discuss the use of Teflon in a bore with most active long range target shooters they would suggest not to. If put it in a bore as it will change accurracy overtime as it fills the metal pores of the bore.
Most match barrel manufacturers say not to use it including Dan Lilja of Lilja barrels.
The last i read even the milatary has now removed it from mil-spec oils. Snipers will not even allow it close to their weapons.
Here is some additional information:
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Teflon is ...gasp... PTFE (PolyTetraFluoroEthylene)
Teflon is a registered trademark, a name only.
The problem comes when PTFE/teflon is subjected to very high temperatures, as seen in gunbores during firing.
The teflon outgasses hydrofluoric acid as a combustion breakdown product.
The acid eats the chrome and/or rifling out of the bore over time, causes stress fractures, pitting etc. Exposure to acid is bad for metal.
Hardchrome as found in AR15/m16 barrels is particularly susceptible to this.
The current Mil spec formula for CLP no longer contains teflon.
Generally wiping a bore will not clear the Teflon as it is meant to seek the low spots and migrate into the pores of a metal to provide the smooth ride.
The last thing I would say is for the normal American hunter/shooter - probably would never be a problem... but I prefer to skip it.
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Last edited by sabotloader; 09-02-2011 at 01:09 PM.
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