I am not a professional on the subject like some of you probably are but after reading through the thread titled "what's next" I got to thinking. Are there any muzzy calibers smaller than .45??? If one was created, would it work? Would the bullet withstand the powder charge? Could it be a faster, longer range "varmint load"??? I'm just thinking out loud here. Any opinions?
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Well Predate my son, you have .40, .36, 32. These are the most common. I also believe at one time there was a .22 around but not sure.
A couple of us have .32s and there may be a 36 or 40 around this forum. These little bores use mostly patched round balls. Or as we refer to them PRBs.
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PREDATE, the only smaller calibers I know of are all round ball shooters - .32's, .36's, .38's and .40's. They are fairly short range propositions with the two smaller ones pretty much limited to 50 yards and the larger ones to 100 yards.
MMP makes a sabot for shooting .357 bullets from a .45 caliber gun. (http://www.mmpsabots.com/blue.html) I've tried them in my 1:30 twist barrel with Hornady 125 grain XTPs and got great accuracy with light loads, but couldn't get them to shoot well with hot loads. They were just not long range shooters.
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Now my 45 Hawken shoots .400 cal, 200 gr XTPs/ Harvester blue ex load sabot with 80 gr of FFFg with great accuracy out to 100 yds
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Here's a trajectory study I did with my 1:30 twist Green Mountain Barreled Renegade with 125 grain .357 Speers and 40 grains of GOEX.
I took two shots each at 20, 30, 40, 50 & 60 yards and was really pleased with the results. When I tried more powder accuracy went to hell. But this would be a great small game/varmint load at least out to 60 yards - maybe ever farther, but I stopped at 60.
Some day I'll shoot this load over the chronograph to see how fast it's going, and also try longer ranges to see how far out the accuracy holds up.
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I modern inline 40cal would be interesting and there are a wide variety of .3XX bullets that would work and 40cal conicals are not too rare either. State regs though would likely hurt sales. Ive got the MMP 45x357 to shoot the 147gr 9mm XTP "ok" with a light load.
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And a lefty one too! Send it on over here to PA and I'll send you enough money to get that ugly toe nail clipped.....hehehehehe. What did you do? looks like you busted it on the bed post.
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I never noticed my toe in the picture before. But yes I had a real problem with it. I almost lost my toe over that mess. It took over six months for it to heal. It was a real problem!! Tom.
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Small calibers????
