Let's say that you have the opportunity to enter a personal shooting contest with someone. The only thing is they will be using a centerfire. You will be using a muzzleloader. They are shooting a 6.5 with handloads that shoot about a 5/8" group between 100 and 200 yards. So to level the playing field a little the scoring of the contest is to be based on hunting accuracy. The target will be deer targets. Heart shots are 3 points, lung shots are 2 points and spine shots are 1 point . Wounding shots such as leg shots are minus a point. You will compete by shooting either offhand or from sticks. No benchrests. The ranges will be 100 yards and 200 yards.
So the question is what gun ( if you could use any gun you wanted) and load would you use and why? You have 2 weeks to get ready.
.45 GM/LRH/TC Renegade with 200 grain .40 caliber XTPs in H4540B sabots over 95 grains GOEX FFFg. Don't need two weeks - it's ready. Why? Because it's a heavy sucker and hangs real steady offhand, and can do the job accuracy wise.
Let's add in one 100 yard shot from the bench for a neck shot just behind the ear for 5 points (clean miss 0 points, bad hit -5 points).
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I think this is a pretty easy question for myself, i would probbly go with a Knight 45 DISC Elite - thumbhole stock, equipped with a Bushnell 3x9x40 DOA scope.
Since it is a paper contest I would not shoot my huunting bullet probably would go with the 40/200 grain SST, MMP light tan sabot and 110 grains T7-2f powder, or even a reduced load just for accuracy shooting.
I feel the 45 Knight DISC offers way better than average accuracy, especially for a factory hunting gun, and since we are shooting paper I do not have to manage terminal performance just accuracy... it is a natural for me.
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I was thinking along those same lines. I was thinking either a White Super 91 .451 1:20 Twist or a Knight Disc Elite .45 cal 1:30 twist using precision Rifle dead center sabots 40 cal 260 gr or the SST 200 gr. with tan sabot . Although theRenegade with the LRH 1:28 barrel is a good idea also except I definitely need a scope and I don't have a sidelock with a scope. (it's a sin semi)
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I never shot muzzleloaders out to 200 yards so this is a tough one. It might be my Renegade with my .45 caliber GMB shooting 200 grain Shockwaves. It shoots them very accurate. I'd change out for the Nikon 3-9x40 Omega scope I have, just to get a better view. Off hand he might have me but off sticks I'd give him a run for his money.
The other rifle that shows a lot of promise is the White Model M97 in .504 Ultra Mag. It shoots the 460 grain conical bullets very accurate out to 100 yards. I think with 2 weeks to practice I could learn the drop out to 200 yards. Those big conicals should be less effected by wind gusts. With the right charge it should be able to hand this. It also has a Nikon scope already on it that is real good.
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Shooting off hand and then standing with the help of a sticks, i wouldn't have much of a chance. I would never aim for the heart; a center of chest hold is what i would have to do. My best chance would be to use my Accura with a 3-9 ultralight Leupold mounted. The cross hair is set for poi at 100 yard when using 260g Harvester PT bullet. The sabot would be a short black, and the powder would be 115g BH, ignited by a w209 primer. At 200 yard, i would set the scope at about 7 1/2 power, and use the second dot to aim at the center of chest. If i could somehow manage to do my part, i would shoot a lot of twos at both 100 & 200 yard, because the rifle is certainly able.
i would shot knight LRH .451 with barnes 290gr tmz 120gr BH209 i would give that centerfire a run for his money and have done it at the range at 100 yds and good fun doing it out shotting a center fire with a mz
or even a reduced load just for accuracy shooting.
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That slightly reduced load i posted with the 180gr XTP or GD is probably enough for deer but its was so accurate it was boring on a sled. A cream puff to shoot too.
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The only thing is they will be using a centerfire. You will be using a muzzleloader. They are shooting a 6.5 with handloads that shoot about a 5/8" group between 100 and 200 yards. So to level the playing field a little the scoring of the contest is to be based on hunting accuracy. The target will be deer targets. Heart shots are 3 points, lung shots are 2 points and spine shots are 1 point . Wounding shots such as leg shots are minus a point. You will compete by shooting either offhand or from sticks. No benchrests. The ranges will be 100 yards and 200 yards.
You have 2 weeks to get ready.
