Hunting Quality Performance?

[Josmund]

I tested the Harvester Scorpion .40 200 grain.

Knight Disc Elite 45
Harvester Smooth Blue
90 grn Pyrodex RS
50 yrds

I set up 5 one gallon water jugs followed by a wood stump. The bullet blew through all five jugs ( completely destroying the first three and lodged in the stump. I was able to remove it easily with a pocket knife. The shrapnel you see was gathered from the jugs. There may have been more but this is what I found..

Question: Is this hunting quality performance? It looks good to me but I'm a rookie.

[lemoyne]

Well there is no way to be sure but it sure looks like a Gold Dot or as they changed the name a Deep Curl with an extra profit margin for somebody.Probably made under contract to add the extra weight.
Yes that is an excellent performance. What was the powder and the charge?

[Gm54-120]

Rainier makes the Funnel Points for them and they do have a dot similar to Speer products. They are still listed on the Rainier website but its now a Harvester exclusive. I confirmed it by calling Rainier looking for a supplier for the 40-200gr after Cabelas sold out. Harvester wants about $19/50. When they were sold at Cabelas they were about $70/500.

Your load is probably a fair amount faster than a 10mm at 50 yards and in a 10mm its "ok" with good shot placement. I never could get them to shoot as well as 200 XTPs and the new Nosler 200gr looks very promising too. If you want to shoot a lot of 45x40 200gr bullets, i would look for cheaper options.

[ronlaughlin]

From what the pictures showed me, and your statement that the first three jugs were destroyed, i would use this bullet for hunting.

[Josmund]

Originally Posted by lemoyne

Well there is no way to be sure but it sure looks like a Gold Dot or as they changed the name a Deep Curl with an extra profit margin for somebody.Probably made under contract to add the extra weight.
Yes that is an excellent performance. What was the powder and the charge?

90 Grains of RS.

[Josmund]

Originally Posted by Gm54-120

Rainier makes the Funnel Points for them and they do have a dot similar to Speer products. They are still listed on the Rainier website but its now a Harvester exclusive. I confirmed it by calling Rainier looking for a supplier for the 40-200gr after Cabelas sold out. Harvester wants about $19/50. When they were sold at Cabelas they were about $70/500.

Your load is probably a fair amount faster than a 10mm at 50 yards and in a 10mm its "ok" with good shot placement. I never could get them to shoot as well as 200 XTPs and the new Nosler 200gr looks very promising too. If you want to shoot a lot of 45x40 200gr bullets, i would look for cheaper options.

GM,

I'm open for other options. The Deep Curl has a great reputation on this board but I can't find the 10 mm 180's anywhere. I would like a bullet that opens like your avatar photo. Is that a Barnes?

[Gm54-120]

Josmund

If that load shoots good i probably would not go higher without extending the range of impact too. Ive turned them into pancakes with 100gr of BH209 in my media tests. It appears you matched the fps to the bullets designed limits and it should perform fine at the range you tested.

Yes that is a Barnes 285gr Spitfire and they are known to fail to expand sometimes. They look purdy when they do expand properly. I would try the 200gr XTP and the new Nosler 200gr. Both are under half the cost of the Harvester 40-200gr and the 200gr XTP performs about the same. Its very popular for youth loads and quite effective if shot at the right fps. Another great 45x40 shooter is the 180gr GoldDot but yes..they are back ordered all over atm.

If you want to try a 40cal Barnes that should expand every time, look at the Barnes 40-155gr TAC-XP. Its light but shoots very well plus its cheaper than any other Barnes 45x40cal option. Ive shot a few into media and i have little doubt they would work well within 100 yards and good shot placement.

[50calty]

I like the XTP. I use the 300 grain though. I've never had an issue with expansion. All three deer and one antelope dropped within 30 yards and had a exit wound. I'm sure the 200 grain would produce the same result.

As for the bullet performance Josmund. I would be very happy with that. That will kill anything it hits.

[sabotloader]

Josmund

Sure looks good to me!

[MountainDevil54]

thats beautiful performance! Now i really want to try those 200gr harvesters.